Is KG past his prime?

[NO-KG-AI]

KG did his part in the playoffs, I don't know how you could watch, or even use stats to believe otherwise. He still has never lost a series he was favored in.

[sarah42]

KG did his part in the playoffs, I don't know how you could watch, or even use stats to believe otherwise. He still has never lost a series he was favored in.

that last part is true. there truly aren't many upsets in the playoffs. usually the higher seed wins.

a guy like tracy mcgrady though, has been up in a series 2-1 or 3-1, or actually had a higher seed like last year, and still found a way to not get passed the first round. people criticize him, but its still a team game, so i don't like it.

but what i truly don't like is you dissing my boy darrick martin! how could you? i thought you and I had so much in common. we like the hornets. we like kg...and now you pull this! its mothers day, so i'm emotional. forgive me.

seriously though, some of that guys teammates
mark blount? really kevin mcHale?

[ronnymac2]

kg is in that nearing-an-end-to-his-prime stage. He's still in his prime. His athleticism has probably decreased, but his team play has improved, though it was always good. Thats very common with great players.

[NO-KG-AI]

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that last part is true. there truly aren't many upsets in the playoffs. usually the higher seed wins.

a guy like tracy mcgrady though, has been up in a series 2-1 or 3-1, or actually had a higher seed like last year, and still found a way to not get passed the first round. people criticize him, but its still a team game, so i don't like it.

but what i truly don't like is you dissing my boy darrick martin! how could you? i thought you and I had so much in common. we like the hornets. we like kg...and now you pull this! its mothers day, so i'm emotional. forgive me.

seriously though, some of that guys teammates
mark blount? really kevin mcHale?

Once KG was forced to play PG because of Cassell and Hudson being injured, and Martin being suck, I kinda lost my respect for him

The lineup for that WCF Wolves team was this IIRC:

Ervin Johnson/Kandi/Oliver miller
KG/Gary Trent/Madsen
Hassell/Wally/Ndudi Ebi
Spreewell/Hoiberg/Wally
Cassell/Hudson/Martin

terrible C production, no quality bigs other than KG, Cassell was more of a good third option, not a second option on a team with championship aspirations, Spree was good defensively, but pretty innefficient, Hassell was a starter because Wally played like 28 games, and started 0. Hudson and Martin might be 1 and 2 as the worst PG's in the league, Ndudi Ebi is an epic fail

Seriously, that's a 58 win team? that's a team that should be in a dog fight with the Lakers? Hell, I still think they would have won if Cassell wouldn't have gotten hurt, and Hudson also.....

I don't think people realize how truly great KG was that year, he had a PER of 29.44(18th all time, only 6 different players have had a higher PER), should have been DPOY, led the league in both Points and rebounds, topped a strong western Conference, won MVP, all D first team, all NBA first team, was a monster in game 7 against Sac town, and put up a great fight against the powerhouse Lakers despite being far out manned.

Take KG out of that lineup, and look at the big men. Kandi, EJ, Trent, mad dog, and Oliver Miller??? LAWL

[Ballings7]

No. Still in it.

[tanat-0s]

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On that note what is Garnett's legacy?

Putting city of Minneapolis on a basketball map for starters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwq2C9_RCR0

[sarah42]

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again, you go dissing my boy darrick??? twice you did it!

don't you get how much he means to tj ford and jose calderon?

who do you think taught jose to do this?



please, i beg of you, let your martin hate go. it'll do you wonders.

martin>>>>>>chris paul.

and again, lol at his teammates. not only did that team overachieve, so did flip saunders if he was their coach at the time.

[Basti]

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that last part is true. there truly aren't many upsets in the playoffs. usually the higher seed wins.

a guy like tracy mcgrady though, has been up in a series 2-1 or 3-1, or actually had a higher seed like last year, and still found a way to not get passed the first round. people criticize him, but its still a team game, so i don't like it.

but what i truly don't like is you dissing my boy darrick martin! how could you? i thought you and I had so much in common. we like the hornets. we like kg...and now you pull this! its mothers day, so i'm emotional. forgive me.

seriously though, some of that guys teammates
mark blount? really kevin mcHale?

Once KG was forced to play PG because of Cassell and Hudson being injured, and Martin being suck, I kinda lost my respect for him

The lineup for that WCF Wolves team was this IIRC:

Ervin Johnson/Kandi/Oliver miller
KG/Gary Trent/Madsen
Hassell/Wally/Ndudi Ebi
Spreewell/Hoiberg/Wally
Cassell/Hudson/Martin

terrible C production, no quality bigs other than KG, Cassell was more of a good third option, not a second option on a team with championship aspirations, Spree was good defensively, but pretty innefficient, Hassell was a starter because Wally played like 28 games, and started 0. Hudson and Martin might be 1 and 2 as the worst PG's in the league, Ndudi Ebi is an epic fail

Seriously, that's a 58 win team? that's a team that should be in a dog fight with the Lakers? Hell, I still think they would have won if Cassell wouldn't have gotten hurt, and Hudson also.....

I don't think people realize how truly great KG was that year, he had a PER of 29.44(18th all time, only 6 different players have had a higher PER), should have been DPOY, led the league in both Points and rebounds, topped a strong western Conference, won MVP, all D first team, all NBA first team, was a monster in game 7 against Sac town, and put up a great fight against the powerhouse Lakers despite being far out manned.

Take KG out of that lineup, and look at the big men. Kandi, EJ, Trent, mad dog, and Oliver Miller??? LAWL

thinking about it makes me really sad. I usually hate the "what if"s but in this case it still gives me some bad moments. though actually don't care if he wins a ring in boston (I would be still glad though) I wish he would have won it back then. we had such a great chemistry back then. and I also happen to think that we would have had a better shot vs the pistons but that's another thing...

oh before I forget it, I think Cassel was a legit 2nd option whenever he was completely healthy but as I mentioned earlier Spree wasn't as good as many make him out to be. yes he played great D (as the whole team did) and he occasionaly went for 25+ points but he was also quite cold more than often.

[Basti]

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Exuses. I kid about KG winning a championship. I didn't expect that with that type of cast but you are a fool and a homer if you give him a pass for being a complete playoff failure.

I'm not giving him a pass. not at all but it's quite hard to win a series against teams usually seeded higher. the only series KG and the wolves lost against a lower seeded team were the lakers back in 2002/03 and in that series Troy Hudson went nuts and if Troy Hudson is your 2nd best player on your team you certainly have a problem. really...

I think it's the best for KG to have a closer in the clutch. I know KG is capable of doing it on his own but he's way better off if someone else does it. this is why I said TD>KG

[NO-KG-AI]

I don't think Cassell was bad, but just about any team I can think of that has won a title has a player of a higher caliber as there number 2, or they have 2 guys at about that Cassell level.

Hakeem's Rockets are one team in the last 20 years or so that I can think of with a worse number 2 man, and probably the 03' Spurs, but both of those teams did have some quality role players, in comparison to Wolves, most notably defensively. Other than those two, you have to go back really far to find a championship team with a lesser number 2 guy.

Edit: and every big man needs a closer in the clutch.

[shrink]

Troy Hudson went nuts because with Cassell, Wally, and Sprewell all hurt to some degree, KG was drawing triple teams. It still took some creative last minute officiating for the Lakers to get past KG's team.

Garnett was always blessed with tremendous physical gifts, but the thing that made him great was three days after his last game of the season, he would start what some say was the toughest off-season training program in the league. Every year he came back having improved something, and the conditioning made him nearly indestructible to injuries.

Its hard to determine whether Garnett has declined offensively, because now that he has better options on the floor with him, he's passing more, and maybe not garnering as much pressure defensively. It seems to me that he has slowed on defense, but in my opinion, he is still the best help-defender in the league. He used to do it with his size and speed, and now that he might be a little slower, he still seems as good by recognizing situations a little earlier.

So is he a little slower? I'd say yes. Is he past his prime? I don't think so, and his enthusiasm for his new team helps.

One last point -- this guy is going to have one of the most gradual declines in the NBA. Imagine KG at 40, if he wants to play that long. He's still a 7 footer with good post moves, great recognition, and he's already a terrific passer. He can be effective as he loses his speed, and he's going to be a useful player for a long time.

[Joseph17]

I don't get the intensity joke. Can someone fill me in on it?

[Albanian Damien]

I don't get the intensity joke. Can someone fill me in on it?

People were basically putting all the blame on KG for the Hawks series. They were basically saying that KG's isn't intense, he just screams and pumps his chest a lot. Just the regular stuff to hate on KG.

[Wade2k6]

I do think KG is past his prime, but he is still a great player. Still a top 5-6 player in the game, but his prime was 3-4 years ago. He is still more then capable of leading the Celtics to the finals, and that's all that really matters, isn't it?