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Post#21 » by SouthJersey » Thu May 8, 2008 9:21 pm

I can't envision a scenerio anymore where Miller does resign. Even if he did, is it a good idea to resign a guy who doesnt want to be here?

I like Calderon just because of the offense he creates, and he fits a running style offense better then Miller. Torontos PG situation is such that they almost have to let him go bc of Ford's longterm commitment.
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Post#22 » by corwin » Thu May 8, 2008 9:43 pm

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Calderon is a backup PG. He's not a starting caliber PG and even though he came off the bench a great deal for Toronto according to 82games.com he STILL managed to give up more points than he scored on his opponent even though he spent a good portion of his playing time being matched up against the oppositions back up PG. His defense is TERRIBLE. Philadelphia fans will not be able to accept having the worst defensive PG in the NBA starting for them regardless of how great his offensive numbers look on paper after the game.


I know other posters get annoyed with you, but you are definitely right on with this one. This team does not need to develop an offensive identity like the Suns or Orlando. A defensive philosophy requires guys that can actually cover their man. Calderon can't do that. Even the guys on the team like Iguodala, Carney, & Lou Williams are marginal half of the time. I know I'm going to catch flack about Iguodala but he needs to pick it up on the defensive end since I feel he's deteriorated on that side of the ball.
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Post#23 » by CPops57 » Thu May 8, 2008 10:58 pm

If getting Calderon entails giving him a contract big enough that the Raptors don't match, that may mean that you have to settle on somebody like Kwame Brown at PF because you run out of capspace to add anybody better.

There's a lot more to it than that and talking about Kwame is an extreme example, but I think this issue is a bit more complex than just "Is Calderon a good player or not?"
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Post#24 » by Mahorn at the 4 » Fri May 9, 2008 12:09 am

Where is sixerfan1976 when you need him?

I would like to hear the inside scoop on what the front office may be saying on Miller, Dalembert and the Iguodala negotiations.
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Post#25 » by Salvistine24 » Fri May 9, 2008 12:34 am

i just dont see them doing nething radical with this core after last season...should they make some moves...i absolutely think they should

1) Future pg...needs be addressed one way or the other...maybe draft, maybe free agency...i dont see them trading miller unless they somehow fall back next year by the deadline...the team seems focused on pr and trading maybe the teams biggest fan favorite at the moment would put them in a negative light even if it might be the smart decision to trade him now

2) PF-i think this might be a forced move instead of playing it cool...im terrified we make that move for JO or settle for someone like Odom who would be somewhat out of position...i think we have to let this come to us and if we cant find an ideal guy, sign a shooter at the 2 and do the evans/thad platoon (altho i really want to see thad develope at the 3)

3) C-id still look for a center...im an anti-sam guy and i admit it...i just dont think you can ever get far with him as your center...i dont know if theres a market for him but itd be nice to check out...if we were thinking outside the box, send miller to denver for camby...sign calderon, and trade dalembert in hopes of moving up for a pf in the draft...i dunno...i understand the reasoning that we are thin up front as is and trading our only legit starting big is controversial but thats why the front office gets paid the big bucks...to not wait with these holes until its too late

in the end, i see us signing a starting 2 guard and everything else remaining reasonably unchanged...im not expecting any major moves that could shake up this core even tho i still think we are a ways away from truly competing
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Post#26 » by freshie2 » Fri May 9, 2008 12:52 am

I think we'll see significant moves. Either one or both of the Andres will be gone, there will be one big FA addition ($8+mill/year), and they'll be active in trying to get some more draft picks. With some solid moves, they could be legit contenders in a few years, but they will need to shake up the roster a little bit to do it. I think the safest players on the roster are Sam (d/t difficulty getting a quality center) and Thad (d/t the promise he showed in year 1). Otherwise, I wouldn't be shocked if anyone else was moved.
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Post#27 » by dbodner » Fri May 9, 2008 1:01 am

CPops57 wrote:If getting Calderon entails giving him a contract big enough that the Raptors don't match, that may mean that you have to settle on somebody like Kwame Brown at PF because you run out of capspace to add anybody better.

There's a lot more to it than that and talking about Kwame is an extreme example, but I think this issue is a bit more complex than just "Is Calderon a good player or not?"


That implies that there is a free agent PF out there who we were actually going to be able to sign. I don't think we can enter FA with that narrow of a focus. This team (barring Brand) isn't one piece away, particularly if our PG is about to walk after next year.
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Post#28 » by Mahorn at the 4 » Fri May 9, 2008 1:35 am

What about Kurt Thomas as a backup 4/5 and a solid veteran presence? He would also become our post defender. What would it cost us to bring him in for 2 eyars as a backup? Sixerfan did say that we were interested in Thomas at the deadline before SA got him.

Perhaps Dalembert or Evans is dealt to create further cap space and we sign Thomas as a bridge to the development of Smith, a pick like Robin Lopez, etc.

I am sort of on the fence with Dalembert, but I can think of better ways to spend $10 mill/yr longterm.
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Post#29 » by corwin » Fri May 9, 2008 11:18 am

Kurt Thomas would be a nice back-up but do we really need him with Evans & would he really bring more than Evans if he is dealt? I would think that Thomas would want to finish his career in SA. Maybe Cleveland will give us Joe Smith back (1 year) just to get the cap relief. I'd imagine they'd even throw in a pick if they wanted the relief.
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Post#30 » by Sixerscan » Fri May 9, 2008 8:44 pm

Kurt Thomas isn't going to come to a non title contender at this point unless you overpay him like crazy.
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Post#31 » by ZigZag » Sat May 10, 2008 2:27 pm

I think we will cop out and get JO or Kwame Brown *sighs*

Truth is who wants to come to philly??? :banghead:
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Post#32 » by tk76 » Sat May 10, 2008 2:35 pm

ZigZag wrote:
Truth is who wants to come to philly??? :banghead:


I don't think that attracting players will be the problem. The team is no longer seen as a basement dweller and they are flush with $'s

There are always certain markets that have an advantage (LA, Miami, NY), and Philly won't attract old vets who want one last shot at a ring. But beyond that, I think Philly is in as good a position as any team to make a move and bring in a big name player.

Boston made those huge moves last summer, and I think Philly is in as good of a position to acquire a big name player as Boston was heading into last summer. That is not to say I expect the huge shake up that the C's had, but Philly is in relatively good shape with a young core and cap flexability over the next few seasons. There biggest hole is the lack of a true superstar.
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Post#33 » by is1531 » Sun May 11, 2008 11:11 pm

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I don't think that attracting players will be the problem. The team is no longer seen as a basement dweller and they are flush with $'s

There are always certain markets that have an advantage (LA, Miami, NY), and Philly won't attract old vets who want one last shot at a ring. But beyond that, I think Philly is in as good a position as any team to make a move and bring in a big name player.

Boston made those huge moves last summer, and I think Philly is in as good of a position to acquire a big name player as Boston was heading into last summer. That is not to say I expect the huge shake up that the C's had, but Philly is in relatively good shape with a young core and cap flexability over the next few seasons. There biggest hole is the lack of a true superstar.
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Post#34 » by is1531 » Sun May 11, 2008 11:14 pm

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I don't think that attracting players will be the problem. The team is no longer seen as a basement dweller and they are flush with $'s

There are always certain markets that have an advantage (LA, Miami, NY), and Philly won't attract old vets who want one last shot at a ring. But beyond that, I think Philly is in as good a position as any team to make a move and bring in a big name player.

Boston made those huge moves last summer, and I think Philly is in as good of a position to acquire a big name player as Boston was heading into last summer. That is not to say I expect the huge shake up that the C's had, but Philly is in relatively good shape with a young core and cap flexability over the next few seasons. There biggest hole is the lack of a true superstar.


The 76ers may have 11 million in cap space and the 16th pick in the draft,but they are miles form contending for a title. When a team is 3 players away from winning a title it's hard to get lukewarm.

I will feel different if we hit the jackpot in the draft and Spotlight Ed rips somebody off. :D

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