The thing that upsets me most about Doc Rivers is..

[Tricky Ricky]

When he refuses to call timeouts when the other team is on a run. He will either let they other build a huge lead or let our huge lead dissapear then and only then call a time out. I think this bugs me more than his rotations, weve seen this in all 3 Cleveland games so far and thats the reason Im bringing it up. Does anyone else get bothered by this?

[Tricky Ricky]

Or does anybody want to try to defend it?

[MyInsatiableOne]

How did I just KNOW you'd start an anti-Doc thread...

[Tricky Ricky]

How did I just KNOW you'd start an anti-Doc thread...

Lol, I know you look forward to my daily Doc thread

[MyInsatiableOne]

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Lol, I know you look forward to my daily Doc thread

As much as I look forward to my daily dump! (Less, actually!)

[BillessuR6]

Calling timeouts at the right time is one of Doc`s biggest weaknesses. He always reacts to slow.

In game 3 he basically let all the momentum go cavs way when he failed to call a timeout early enough in the game. He was 2-3 minutes too late.

We scored first 4 points and then the cavs went on a 14 point run to make it 14:4 before Rivers finally called a timeout. He should have taken it after 10:4. I was yelling at my TV at that point, I have no idea why he didn`t.

But I was even more amazed that he didn`t react when Lebron had that huge dunk that made it 12:4. He let CLE score another 2 points when he finally took action. By that time cavs were flying on the court, they were confident, energized, the game was basically lost in these first 6 minutes.

[Tricky Ricky]

Calling timeouts at the right time is one of Doc`s biggest weaknesses. He always reacts to slow.

In game 3 he basically let all the momentum go cavs way when he failed to call a timeout early enough in the game. He was 2-3 minutes too late.

We scored first 4 points and then the cavs went on a 14 point run to make it 14:4 before Rivers finally called a timeout. He should have taken it after 10:4. I was yelling at my TV at that point, I have no idea why he didn`t.

But I was even more amazed that he didn`t react when Lebron had that huge dunk that made it 12:4. He let CLE score another 2 points when he finally took action. By that time cavs were flying on the court, they were confident, energized, the game was basically lost in these first 6 minutes.

I used to yell but now I know yelling wont help when it comes to Doc instead Ill say ok Doc maybe a timeout? Maybe? Maybe? Ok no timeout sounds fine, its much more relaxing

[MyInsatiableOne]

Calling timeouts at the right time is one of Doc`s biggest weaknesses. He always reacts to slow.

In game 3 he basically let all the momentum go cavs way when he failed to call a timeout early enough in the game. He was 2-3 minutes too late.

We scored first 4 points and then the cavs went on a 14 point run to make it 14:4 before Rivers finally called a timeout. He should have taken it after 10:4. I was yelling at my TV at that point, I have no idea why he didn`t.

But I was even more amazed that he didn`t react when Lebron had that huge dunk that made it 12:4. He let CLE score another 2 points when he finally took action. By that time cavs were flying on the court, they were confident, energized, the game was basically lost in these first 6 minutes.

I usually don't go along with all the Doc hate but I agree with you on this 100% and I felt the same way during the game. I was puzzled more than anything.

[Banks2Pierce]

This is Doc's worst trait. It's acceptable at home because the crowd helps out sometimes, but it is not at all acceptable on the road. Game 3 was lost in the first quarter, which is unfortunate because we played them even for the rest of the game.

[Kids Are Alright]

He calls time outs with the reserves, but he has too much reverence for the big three to react, I guess.

[MyInsatiableOne]

This is Doc's worst trait. It's acceptable at home because the crowd helps out sometimes, but it is not at all acceptable on the road. Game 3 was lost in the first quarter, which is unfortunate because we played them even for the rest of the game.

Good point. I thought the Cavs were not that great the rest of the game, just holding us off. But yeah, we lost it in the first.

[ParticleMan]

Based on that premise, Phil Jackson must be the worst coach ever in the NBA. He almost never calls timeouts when the opposing team is on a run. It's a miracle he's still in the league, let alone having won a bunch of titles.

[Tricky Ricky]

Based on that premise, Phil Jackson must be the worst coach ever in the NBA. He almost never calls timeouts when the opposing team is on a run. It's a miracle he's still in the league, let alone having won a bunch of titles.

This thread is about Doc not Phil. regardless its hard to be a bad coach with Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, Kobe/Odom/Gasol. U could have no timeouts and prob still win

[MyInsatiableOne]

Based on that premise, Phil Jackson must be the worst coach ever in the NBA. He almost never calls timeouts when the opposing team is on a run. It's a miracle he's still in the league, let alone having won a bunch of titles.

Phil's a bad example...no one knows how good he is as an actual COACH (not motivator, which he excellent at, but coach) since he's always had ready-made title-contenders. Put him coaching the Knicks or Suns or Jazz or Rockets and let's see how good a coach he really is.

[MyInsatiableOne]

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This thread is about Doc not Phil. regardless its hard to be a bad coach with Jordan/Pippen, Shaq/Kobe, Kobe/Odom/Gasol. U could have no timeouts and prob still win

That is exactly what I said. *I* could probably have won 9 titles with those teams!

[ParticleMan]

I don't think coaching superstars is quite as easy as you think, but regardless....

My point was the PJax never calls timeouts, yet coaches like Larry Brown and Popovich micromanage games. Both have won titles. I just think the whole coaches calling timeouts thing is highly overrated. There's no right way to manage games. It's easy for armchair coaches to say a coach should have called a timeout after a 6-0 run after it turns into a 20-2 run. But it's a lot harder to call timeouts after every 6-0 run, because there just aren't that many discretionary TOs.

[BrokenLeftyJumper]

My point was the PJax never calls timeouts, yet coaches like Larry Brown and Popovich micromanage games. Both have won titles. I just think the whole coaches calling timeouts thing is highly overrated. There's no right way to manage games. It's easy for armchair coaches to say a coach should have called a timeout after a 6-0 run after it turns into a 20-2 run. But it's a lot harder to call timeouts after every 6-0 run, because there just aren't that many discretionary TOs.

Agreed. Calling timeouts is overrated, nobody actually knows what the correlation between calling timeout and stopping another teams run is, if there is one. Let's fire Doc, and hire Rick Carlisle, who calls a friggin timeout to stem the other teams 'momentum' after they hit a free throw.

[BillessuR6]

Calling timeouts is definitely not overrated. You make it sound like Jackson thinks timeouts are not important which is obviously not true.

He sometimes likes to let the team itself figure it out on the court. But this only works because it is in correlation with everything else he does as a coach. It is a part of a greater scheme, of his whole coaching philosophy...

[Tricky Ricky]

I don't think coaching superstars is quite as easy as you think, but regardless....

My point was the PJax never calls timeouts, yet coaches like Larry Brown and Popovich micromanage games. Both have won titles. I just think the whole coaches calling timeouts thing is highly overrated. There's no right way to manage games. It's easy for armchair coaches to say a coach should have called a timeout after a 6-0 run after it turns into a 20-2 run. But it's a lot harder to call timeouts after every 6-0 run, because there just aren't that many discretionary TOs.

Just out of curiosity do u dislike any coach to ever coach an nba team?

[Tricky Ricky]

My point was the PJax never calls timeouts, yet coaches like Larry Brown and Popovich micromanage games. Both have won titles. I just think the whole coaches calling timeouts thing is highly overrated. There's no right way to manage games. It's easy for armchair coaches to say a coach should have called a timeout after a 6-0 run after it turns into a 20-2 run. But it's a lot harder to call timeouts after every 6-0 run, because there just aren't that many discretionary TOs.

Agreed. Calling timeouts is overrated, nobody actually knows what the correlation between calling timeout and stopping another teams run is, if there is one. Let's fire Doc, and hire Rick Carlisle, who calls a friggin timeout to stem the other teams 'momentum' after they hit a free throw.

I wish we had Carlisle