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D'Antoni's arrival catches Nachbar's eye

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Post#1 » by njnetsballaaa » Mon May 12, 2008 11:52 pm

Seven years ago Boki Nachbar went from being a promising young player in Europe to a vital component of Mike D'Antoni's highly successful, fast-paced offense for Benetton Treviso.

Nachbar still loves D'Antoni as a coach and a friend, and no wonder. In their one year together D'Antoni made Nachbar a starter and they won the Italian League and the Italian Cup, and went to the European final four.

So as much as he wants to return to the Nets, Nachbar, who is a free agent this summer, couldn't help but notice that the Knicks just hired the one coach who was so instrumental in his development. A reunion, he said, would be tempting.

"Who wouldn't want to play for Mike?" Nachbar said yesterday from Koper, Slovenia. "For me, playing with Mike again would be like a dream come true, honestly. But I'm extremely thankful for what the Nets gave me. As much as what Mike did for me in Europe, they did for me in the NBA.

"They totally helped me with redirecting my career and getting me going again, and I don't forget that easily. From that aspect, I do want to stay with the Nets, definitely. But then just over the river, having one of the best coaches in the NBA, and a guy who's not just a coach but my friend, that also is going to be a factor, too."

Nachbar, a 6-9 shooting forward, said he hasn't spoken to the Nets since his exit meeting a month ago, when both sides professed a desire to keep Nachbar in East Rutherford.

Nachbar and D'Antoni left Italy after their one season together. Nachbar was drafted by the Rockets in 2002 and D'Antoni joined him in the NBA as an assistant coach with the Suns. When D'Antoni eventually took over as head coach in Phoenix the next year, Nachbar knew what was coming.

The same roadrunner brand of up-tempo basketball that D'Antoni made popular with the Suns was just what he taught at Treviso. Benetton had the speedy Tyus Edney playing the role of Steve Nash, while D'Antoni had Nachbar, then just 21, sweeping in from the wing.

"We played almost exactly the same way," Nachbar said. "We played extremely fast. Organized, but fast. It was something he did from the beginning when he got there, and that's why we won a championship and why we were one of the most successful teams in Europe.

"We pushed the ball and never stopped playing that way the whole season. We were extremely successful at it. By the end of the season we were impossible to stop."

Nachbar said that at Benetton there was no specific team rule to shoot within seven seconds, which became a popularized tenet of D'Antoni's offensive philosophy in Phoenix. But any open shot was considered a good shot.

"When a person had an open shot, if he didn't take it, then he would hear from him," Nachbar recalled. "It would be totally opposite from the other coaches. If you had an open shot in the first five seconds of the offense and didn't take it, you would get talked to. He wouldn't yell, but he would say, 'Listen, you've got to take that shot, that's the type of shot we want.'

With that exciting style and his success as a former star player and coach for Milan, and later coaching at Benetton, D'Antoni became more than just a star in Italian basketball.

"He's like a god over there," Nachbar said. "They love him. It's almost impossible to believe. You have to go over there to see it."

Nachbar described Benetton practices as a fun combination of five-on-five scrimmages and fast-break drills, and said that the players tend to love D'Antoni just as much as the Italian fans.

"He shows tremendous trust in his players and I guess I fit perfectly into his system and his vision," he said. "Even though I struggled at times as the youngest guy on the team, he let me play through it. The confidence and trust that he shows in players is something I'll never forget."



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Post#2 » by Serpo » Mon May 12, 2008 11:59 pm

Well D'Antoni hasn't shown that much trust in Phoenix ....

Well , whatever i doubt the Knicks would sign him or need him.

Maybe he'll stay here or go where ever the most money is thrown at him.
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Post#3 » by Stone » Tue May 13, 2008 12:26 am

If I could personally pack his suitcase and drop him off at the airport with a one ticket to europe I'd be grabbing my coat and keys right now. Boki belongs in europe not the NBA. I'd rather we give someone else a shot. At this point what differance would it make.
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Post#4 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 12:54 am

Well if we don't resign him we need to draft a shooter AND aquire one in free agency and i'm not sure there's much available .

He's very inconsistent but we had zero alternatives on the bench for scoring which is why he had to play so much .
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Post#5 » by Da big3 » Tue May 13, 2008 1:35 am

frank played him at the 4 when hes a 3, remember how gret he was when RJ was out, he played at the 3..........
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Post#6 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 1:41 am

Yes because we had nobody on the 4-5 position who could score , NONE .

The best scoring big we had last year has been Malik Allen before he got traded and thats very sad.
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Post#7 » by dacher » Tue May 13, 2008 12:48 pm

You guys are making dacher sad, because what you writing is all so true. :'-(

If the Knicks really want him, they'll get him. He's not going to be overpriced, the Knicks brought in a new GM and coach specifically to remake the team, the Knicks have the biggest payroll in NBA so money is almost no objection.
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Post#8 » by S.I.C. GM » Tue May 13, 2008 1:37 pm

I agree. If the Knicks want to overpay him, bye bye Nachbar.

It seems that D'Antoni is going to make an impact as to the dealings with the Knicks.

The rumor is the D'Antoni wants Diaw and Barbosa for Marbury.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... suns_.html

As much as I thought D'Antoni didnt fit with that current team, Walsh is going to move players to make it work for D'Antoni.
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Post#9 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 2:31 pm

Why in the world would Phoenix do something stupid like that ?

Honestly the Knicks can't make major moves without involving their pick . They've got the several of the worst contracts in the league Walsh can't magically move them and get something usefull back.
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Post#10 » by deviljets7 » Tue May 13, 2008 5:20 pm

Serpo wrote:Why in the world would Phoenix do something stupid like that ?


Because their owner is a cheap &*#$!

A Marbury for Barbosa/Diaw trade would save the Suns $42.6 million over the next four seasons.
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Post#11 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 5:31 pm

Well then they would have 6 real rotation players left ....
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Post#12 » by Adam1221 » Tue May 13, 2008 6:19 pm

Boki is a great player you guys really all those insults are un-called for.
Sure he's inconsistent but a good chunk of his crappy games should be blamed on Frank.
Boki is NOT A 4 ****!
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Post#13 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 6:23 pm

Well he hasn't played that much at the 4 with Allen here but after Allen was traded nobody else could score on the big positions at all besides dunks and layups . Swift was a major dissappoitment i thought he would be at least half usefull .
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Post#14 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 13, 2008 7:26 pm

Serpo if i recall correctly even when Allen was here idiot Frank was still playing Boki out of position and the Nets always suffered on both ends of the floor when he did that DUMB shi-, er, stuff.

I wouldnt mind Boki being resigned for 3 cents on the dollar but i'd rather the Nets make a run at JR Smith, who is a superior player to Boki from beyond the arc and putting the ball on the floor and scoring. We need that type of play off of the bench, Boki is not worth overpaying for someone who can only hit threes, or show he has a pulse for that matter, 1 out of every 5 games. Nachbar is absolute garbage right now, had he continued his strong play from the prior season this would be a no brainer, but the guy is weak mentally and i don't know how bad his injuries were but he played soft around the basket...where's the boki that was making dunk of the night every other game?

Let him walk, this team should not be forced to overpay for garbage play
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Post#15 » by Rich Rane » Tue May 13, 2008 7:43 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:but i'd rather the Nets make a run at JR Smith, who is a superior player to Boki from beyond the arc and putting the ball on the floor and scoring. We need that type of play off of the bench,


The most we could offer JR Smith is around $5 million. If Denver decides to delay rebuilding or think he'll be part of their future, they'll definitely match that.
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Post#16 » by Rich Rane » Tue May 13, 2008 7:44 pm

Serpo wrote:Swift was a major dissappoitment i thought he would be at least half usefull .


I think he'd do much more in a fast paced offense, a somewhat very smaller fragment of what K-Mart was here with Kidd.
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Post#17 » by Serpo » Tue May 13, 2008 7:57 pm

Swift is nowhere near K-Mart not even close .
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Post#18 » by Rich Rane » Tue May 13, 2008 7:58 pm

Serpo wrote:Swift is nowhere near K-Mart not even close .


I don't know how you got that from my post. I just said he was a very small fragment of him as he would do better in a faster offense.
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Post#19 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 13, 2008 8:57 pm

Good point about JR, Rich. We just need a reliable 3pt shooter period, and Nachbar is not the answer. I think we can replace what he brings to the table, which wasnt much.

The sad part is, the days he decided to show up were some of the better games the Nets have had this season. Him playing as bad as he did this season is a key factor in the way things turned out
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Post#20 » by halfHAVOC » Wed May 14, 2008 2:19 am

please take him.
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