LaMarcus Aldridge vs Al Horford

DowJones · Post #1 » by **DowJones** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:16 am

Both of them are young PF's. Who would you take and why?

Blazing_royale · Post #2 » by **Blazing_royale** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:18 am

Al Horford- Bigger, More Physical, Better Rebounder, got more mean streak in him.

farzi · Post #3 » by **farzi** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:14 am

This was done before.

Aldridge = offense

Horford = grunt work

DowJones · Post #4 » by **DowJones** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:22 am

Horford is better at Defense and Rebounding in addition to grunt work.

farzi · Post #5 » by **farzi** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:09 am

I would consider rebounding part of grunt work, defense idk. horford's a better man defender, lamarcus is a much better help defender

richboy · Post #6 » by **richboy** » Tue May 13, 2008 9:07 am

Horford wins in rebounding but there not another aspect I would say he is definetely better. While Aldridge is a much better offensive player at this point. This isn't close IMO.

That Nicka · Post #7 » by **That Nicka** » Tue May 13, 2008 9:10 am

Aldridge now, Horford later

ISB · Post #8 » by **ISB** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:47 am

bleh, aldridge easy. Horford is a role player, Aldridge will be all star soon.

Aldridge isn't quite as strong as Horford but he is a much better shotblocker. On offense it isn't even close.

this isn't that much different than Bosh vs David Lee.

Teddy KGB · Post #9 » by **Teddy KGB** » Tue May 13, 2008 11:14 am

Aldridge without hesitation. Horford is majorly overrated after the Boston series

conleyorbust · Post #10 » by **conleyorbust** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:28 pm

ISB wrote:bleh, aldridge easy. Horford is a role player, Aldridge will be all star soon.

Aldridge isn't quite as strong as Horford but he is a much better shotblocker. On offense it isn't even close.

this isn't that much different than Bosh vs David Lee.

Exaggerate much?

Even as a Hawks fan I'd have to say that Aldridge is the better player right now. I see him as a role player too though, he's too soft on both ends of the floor (and yes, I've watched him and you can't tell me he isn't soft).

Honestly, Aldridge isn't a super efficient scorer at all. He has a TS% of 52.3 which puts him around Josh Smith level and he doesn't have Josh Smith shot selection problems to explain that.

Horford will be a solid player on both ends of the floor. If the Hawks do the only rational thing and pick up the pace, Horford becomes more valuable because he is a great rebounder and solid outlet passer who can score in transition. He has an OK post game but he is best right now as a guy who finishes on the pick and roll or finishes off of doubles to other players which is why his shooting % went up when Bibby came to town and we starting running the pick and roll.

Jack wore plaid · Post #11 » by **Jack wore plaid** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:31 pm

Aldridge is better at everything but rebounding, and that was mostly because of Joel Przybilla next to him. When Przybilla went out late in the season Aldridge averaged a double double.

Wizenheimer · Post #12 » by **Wizenheimer** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:15 pm

DowJones wrote:Horford is better at Defense and Rebounding in addition to grunt work.

you're wrong on the defense part, Aldridge is better and more versatile on defense.

and the fact you were the OP, and yet you disputed the first post that said something positive about Aldridge, seems to reveal your motivation in posing the question in the first place.

conleyorbust · Post #13 » by **conleyorbust** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:24 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you're wrong on the defense part, Aldridge is better and more versatile on defense.

and the fact you were the OP, and yet you disputed the first post that said something positive about Aldridge, seems to reveal your motivation in posing the question in the first place.

Can you back that with anything?

You are a Portland fan so I'd assume you had some insights into the strengths and weaknesses of Aldridge's defensive game but if you don't state them you just look like a homer making unsubstantiated claims about your guy being good at something he isn't good at.

Red Robot · Post #14 » by **Red Robot** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:43 pm

I like Aldridge a little better. On defense, all the stats point to Aldridge as the better player (+/-, counterpart PER, Oliver's defensive ratings). Horford has a pretty big edge in terms of the rebounds that actually wind up in his hands. But if you look a little closer, his team's rebounding is slightly better without him, which is not true of Aldridge. Aldridge is a significantly better shooter and a comparable post scorer. On the season, Aldridge recorded nearly as many assists (122 vs 124) with about half as many passing turnovers (22 vs 42).

Wizenheimer · Post #15 » by **Wizenheimer** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:51 pm

conleyorbust wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Can you back that with anything?

You are a Portland fan so I'd assume you had some insights into the strengths and weaknesses of Aldridge's defensive game but if you don't state them you just look like a homer making unsubstantiated claims about your guy being good at something he isn't good at.

first off...I want to say that I like horford a lot and think he's going to be a very good player, so I'm not dismissing him just because I think LMA is better. If portland would have won the 3rd pick instead of the 1st, a aldridge/horford frontcourt would be exciting.

I watched Horford play several games this year, and then saw him in the playoffs. Of course I've seen Aldridge play most of his games and almost all this season.

Aldridge had many very effective games this season playing against the best PF's in the game. He did well on both ends of the floor against Duncan, he frankly outplayed Nowitski, and he generally held his own against the premier PF's. He has excellent quickness for his size and he moves his feet very well. He does an excellent job of staying in front of his man. He especially effective at going out to the perimeter with those big men who spot up out there. He was having some trouble in the first part of the season giving up position to the more physical PF's and C's, but as the season wore on he improved in that area dramatically.

And when you couple his quickness...and he is at least as quick if not quicker then Horford, IMO...with his length advantage, the defensive edge goes to Aldridge.

kandiking · Post #16 » by **kandiking** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:00 pm

both. because if either were next to al jefferson it would be the top frontcourt in the game. I guess i go with aldridge because MIN needs all the help in can get on both sides of the ball, and LMA ain't a bad defender. these are really two of the most likable young stars in the game and they both play with great emotion.

Jack wore plaid · Post #17 » by **Jack wore plaid** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:12 pm

kandiking wrote:both. because if either were next to al jefferson it would be the top frontcourt in the game. I guess i go with aldridge because MIN needs all the help in can get on both sides of the ball, and LMA ain't a bad defender. these are really two of the most likable young stars in the game and they both play with great emotion.

Hopefully the Blazers can somehow find a bigman that everyone says will be the next great center to play along side Aldridge. Man, that would be cool for them

The Diesel · Post #18 » by **The Diesel** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:39 pm

Easy; I would take Aldridge. He has superstar potential.

Horford is a very solid player, but I don't think he will be a superstar like Aldridge.

But he will be a very solid player for a long time; a double-double guy, but he won't ever reach the same level that I think Aldrige will.

DowJones · Post #19 » by **DowJones** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:53 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you're wrong on the defense part, Aldridge is better and more versatile on defense.

and the fact you were the OP, and yet you disputed the first post that said something positive about Aldridge, seems to reveal your motivation in posing the question in the first place.

LMAO. Why are you such a combative poster? You follow people around these forums looking to start arguments. Ease up man.

I didn't "dispute" what the man said, I simply added on to it. I do agree that Horford is better at grunt-work and Aldridge is better on offense. I didn't know that he meant that grunt work was defense and rebounding. He cleared that up later on.

Relax and take that stick out of your backside.

Wizenheimer · Post #20 » by **Wizenheimer** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:33 pm

DowJones wrote:
LMAO. Why are you such a combative poster? You follow people around these forums looking to start arguments. Ease up man.

I didn't "dispute" what the man said, I simply added on to it. I do agree that Horford is better at grunt-work and Aldridge is better on offense. I didn't know that he meant that grunt work was defense and rebounding. He cleared that up later on.

you haven't seen me combative yet, and you should be the last one to talk about starting arguments.

I wasn't disagreeing with anything the other guy said...I was disagreeing with you, and it was specifically, on defense.

DowJones wrote:Relax and take that stick out of your backside.

as soon as you perform the same action with your head

(and that's not combative, either)