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Post#41 » by keepthenetsinnj » Mon May 12, 2008 9:52 pm

Miami would definitely be a playoff team if they get Rose, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that they are scary.
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Post#42 » by ljp24 » Mon May 12, 2008 10:10 pm

Zo's skills are washed up on Miami beach...
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Post#43 » by Ballings7 » Mon May 12, 2008 10:14 pm

Zo was still playing well before he got hurt, in the role he's had since coming back in 05...
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Post#44 » by magicfan4life05 » Mon May 12, 2008 10:18 pm

this is good news to hear about my man zo
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Post#45 » by The Diesel » Mon May 12, 2008 10:24 pm

Obviously Zo isn't going to be a 20 and 10 guy at this stage in his career, but he's still one of the best defensive centers in the game when he's healthy.

Glad to see he'll be back; he's a great guy and a future hall of famer.
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Post#46 » by Buck You » Mon May 12, 2008 10:32 pm

greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

sorry, but i think its hilarious a guy with a Favre sig says that

Haha, Favre had a great last season though.
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Post#47 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Mon May 12, 2008 11:00 pm

Ballings7 wrote:Haslem is a quality role-playing PF, one of the best in the league... and one of the best defensive players and defensive PFs in the league. Of course he's not close to star PFs, that's not fair or right to compare him to those players, but for the type of player he is, he's top-level because of what he does.


I never argued Haslem wasn't a quality player or that he wasn't a good role player.

I called him a below average starter, and then I listed at least 17 other starting PFs in this league who were better. Considering there are 30 starting PFs in this league, than puts Haslem around the 40th percentile or lower, making him below average (average being 50th percentile). See how we good about this logically?
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Post#48 » by kooldude » Mon May 12, 2008 11:16 pm

The Diesel wrote:Man, if he returns next year AND Miami gets Derrick Rose, they are going to be SCARY!

Imagine...

Alonzo Mourning

Udonis Haslem

Shawn Marion

Dwyane Wade

Derrick Rose

That's already a title contender, in my opinion.

Then Riley does look like a genius for trading Shaq.


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Post#49 » by BBallFreak » Mon May 12, 2008 11:16 pm

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:I never argued Haslem wasn't a quality player or that he wasn't a good role player.

I called him a below average starter, and then I listed at least 17 other starting PFs in this league who were better. Considering there are 30 starting PFs in this league, than puts Haslem around the 40th percentile or lower, making him below average (average being 50th percentile). See how we good about this logically?


Not realizing, of course, that you put Bosh in their twice, or that the idea that Kenyon Martin is better is not exactly without merit for debate, given the fact that their offensive numbers are virtually identical but Haslem owns him as a rebounder. That's not even taking into account Luis Scola, who's numbers were less than Haslem's across the board.

So, given that two of your players are arguable, and one of them was repeated twice, I think you could make an argument for Haslem actually being exactly average...
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Post#50 » by KB20 » Mon May 12, 2008 11:51 pm

If he asks to be cut to want to come to a contender then I hope Mitch goes all out to sign him. He would be a great help off the bench and would provide great leadership for guys like Andrew and Pau.
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Post#51 » by P2 » Mon May 12, 2008 11:52 pm

Boston would be the perfect polace for him. We went after Mutombo in the 2007 off-season, so I guess we'll also go after Zo this off-season.
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Post#52 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Tue May 13, 2008 12:04 am

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Not realizing, of course, that you put Bosh in their twice, or that the idea that Kenyon Martin is better is not exactly without merit for debate, given the fact that their offensive numbers are virtually identical but Haslem owns him as a rebounder. That's not even taking into account Luis Scola, who's numbers were less than Haslem's across the board.

So, given that two of your players are arguable, and one of them was repeated twice, I think you could make an argument for Haslem actually being exactly average...


My fault, replace Bosh with Okafor. I looked over the teams again. I'd put Haslem at 18th, ahead of Wilcox for Seattle, Troy Murphy of Indiana, Al Jefferson of Golden State, but behind Scola, who's the better player of the two imo. Scola's stats are skewed because he played on a better team, and took a couple of months to adjust to the NBA. I'd also take Kenyon Martin over Haslem now that Martin is finally getting healthy (disregarding his contract of course, lol). Jamison's the only other guy you could possibly argue about. In the West, Haslem might be more valuable than Jamison, who plays out of position. But Jamison is the better player.
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Post#53 » by greenbeans » Tue May 13, 2008 12:09 am

Big Al is no question better. he plays out of position though
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Post#54 » by Alex_De_Large » Tue May 13, 2008 12:43 am

He is a Heat, he will not sign with any other team.
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Post#55 » by Ballings7 » Tue May 13, 2008 4:54 am

Next to a two-way center - I'd love Haslem on my team as his helper

Generally, I'd love him on my team as the back-up PF

For a role-player, he's well above-average
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Post#56 » by BBallFreak » Tue May 13, 2008 9:52 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:My fault, replace Bosh with Okafor. I looked over the teams again. I'd put Haslem at 18th, ahead of Wilcox for Seattle, Troy Murphy of Indiana, Al Jefferson of Golden State, but behind Scola, who's the better player of the two imo. Scola's stats are skewed because he played on a better team, and took a couple of months to adjust to the NBA. I'd also take Kenyon Martin over Haslem now that Martin is finally getting healthy (disregarding his contract of course, lol). Jamison's the only other guy you could possibly argue about. In the West, Haslem might be more valuable than Jamison, who plays out of position. But Jamison is the better player.


You can put him anywhere you want. Understand that it doesn't necessarily make you right.
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Post#57 » by P2 » Tue May 13, 2008 1:50 pm

Alex_De_Large wrote:He is a Heat, he will not sign with any other team.


He is a free agent right now.
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Post#58 » by Number34 » Tue May 13, 2008 2:10 pm

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He is a free agent right now.


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