Detroit Pistons in Conference Finals for 6 straight years
Detroit Pistons in Conference Finals for 6 straight years
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Detroit Pistons in Conference Finals for 6 straight years
What is the reason for their success? This is a team with not one player who is considered a superstar yet they have made the Conference Finals for now the 6th consecutive year starting from 2003.

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7 straight years of 50+ wins too.
What's kinda neat is that first year under Carlisle we won 50 games with Chucky Atkins, Jerry Stackhouse, Michael Curry, Ben Wallace and Clifford Robinson as the starting lineup (although Corliss played starter minutes).
That team lost in 5 games to Boston, but it was that series, in which Atkins got abused by Kenny Anderson that really prompted Joe to go out and get a bigger guard on the FA market. IIRC he was actually interested in Keyon Dooling at the time too, but we wound up with Chauncey, and then with potential contract issues looming we traded the more established Stackhouse for the lesser known Rip and away we went.
It was that '03 season, in which Tay hardly played, that he had his break out playoff performance by the Magic and then the following year Sheed was acquired for expirings and a couple of 1st round picks (which turned into Toney Allen & Josh Smith).
Since then Joe has just done a hell of a job of keeping the core together and plugging in role players to keep this thing rolling. Dude has done a phenomenal job. In some ways it's been easier to keep the team together because we haven't had to break the bank for any 1 guy. We've been able to lock up guys to pretty reasonable long term contracts and Joe has been able to stagger them so that we're not caught trying to negotiate with to many guys at once. It's really been very well thought out and executed. And he's known when to cut his losses (Ben Wallace).
Obviously the Darko draft is the big black spot on his record, but lots of other GM's (including Jerry West) thought Darko was going to be a stud too. And at least we got Rodney Stuckey out of the fiasco. But nobodies perfect, and overall Joe has done about as good as anybody over the past 7-8 years.
What's kinda neat is that first year under Carlisle we won 50 games with Chucky Atkins, Jerry Stackhouse, Michael Curry, Ben Wallace and Clifford Robinson as the starting lineup (although Corliss played starter minutes).
That team lost in 5 games to Boston, but it was that series, in which Atkins got abused by Kenny Anderson that really prompted Joe to go out and get a bigger guard on the FA market. IIRC he was actually interested in Keyon Dooling at the time too, but we wound up with Chauncey, and then with potential contract issues looming we traded the more established Stackhouse for the lesser known Rip and away we went.
It was that '03 season, in which Tay hardly played, that he had his break out playoff performance by the Magic and then the following year Sheed was acquired for expirings and a couple of 1st round picks (which turned into Toney Allen & Josh Smith).
Since then Joe has just done a hell of a job of keeping the core together and plugging in role players to keep this thing rolling. Dude has done a phenomenal job. In some ways it's been easier to keep the team together because we haven't had to break the bank for any 1 guy. We've been able to lock up guys to pretty reasonable long term contracts and Joe has been able to stagger them so that we're not caught trying to negotiate with to many guys at once. It's really been very well thought out and executed. And he's known when to cut his losses (Ben Wallace).
Obviously the Darko draft is the big black spot on his record, but lots of other GM's (including Jerry West) thought Darko was going to be a stud too. And at least we got Rodney Stuckey out of the fiasco. But nobodies perfect, and overall Joe has done about as good as anybody over the past 7-8 years.
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lakersfr wrote:And while Detroit is undeniably one of the great teams of their era, I think this also shows the weakness of the east. For example, a team making the WCF for the last seven years is almost unimaginable (even SA only made four during this time)
14 other teams have had an opportunity to make the conference finals every year but Detroit does it 6 straight years so this fact shows that the East is weak

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Hunter wrote:Since then Joe has just done a hell of a job of keeping the core together and plugging in role players to keep this thing rolling. Dude has done a phenomenal job.
He's done his share of mistakes though:
1. Darko pick
2. Flip signing
3. Losing some good players to free agency (James and Okur come to mind)
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jab wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
14 other teams have had an opportunity to make the conference finals every year but Detroit does it 6 straight years so this fact shows that the East is weak
Well, Detroit's dominance doesn't directly show the east's weakness, but is a piece of it. In the west, with several good teams, it been harder to make it to the WCF. Weaker conference=easier pather to CF. Detroit is a great team, but I think the weakness of the east is at least a part of their success
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Its just been an outstanding job by Joe...I mean dont get me wrong, he has been dealt ALOT of luck these past years
He had the #2 pick, bench players like Okur, Delfino, James...Lucking out with Billups
But this guy has made great decisions like robbing the Magic of Stuckey, letting Wallace go, grabbing Maxiell, signing Mcdyess (who is very underrated)
He had the #2 pick, bench players like Okur, Delfino, James...Lucking out with Billups
But this guy has made great decisions like robbing the Magic of Stuckey, letting Wallace go, grabbing Maxiell, signing Mcdyess (who is very underrated)
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jab wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
14 other teams have had an opportunity to make the conference finals every year but Detroit does it 6 straight years so this fact shows that the East is weak
dont get me wrong detroit has been great the last 6 seasons but it definitely hasnt been the greatest of stretches for the eastern conference as a whole.
its almost kind of like the buffalo bills in the early 90s. the afc was awful during that stretch and they just happened to be the best of the bunch for four seasons...the pistons just were able to get over that hump and actually win a championship
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tanat-0s wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
He's done his share of mistakes though:
1. Darko pick
2. Flip signing
3. Losing some good players to free agency (Turk and Okur come to mind)
The Darko pick played tonight, didn't you see STUCKEY.
We didn't lose Okur, he wanted to start and pouted when Sheed arrived and who in the world is Turk.
Utah did Joe a favor, we didn't have to lowball Memo.
Flip was the best available at the time.

I am sure Joe doesn't view it as a mistake, I do but unlike yourself I don't have a crystal ball on predicting 'chips' because of a coach.
Sir Charles might say 'Red is rolling over in his grave' because I posted that.
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tanat-0s wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
He's done his share of mistakes though:
1. Darko pick
2. Flip signing
3. Losing some good players to free agency (James and Okur come to mind)
1: No argument
2: Lets see how this year finishes before writing this off as bad, besides it wasn't like there were a wealth of coaches available that year.
3: With Okur, it was essentially him or Sheed. It's hard to feel bad about that one.
Still with 7 50 win seasons, 6 division titles, 7 straight trips to at least the 2nd round, 6 conference finals appearances, 2 finals appearances (still alive), 1 title (still alive). It's easy to forgive his mistakes.