Pau Gasol vs. Kevin Garnett

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Pau Gasol vs. Kevin Garnett 

Post#1 » by Kabookalu » Wed May 14, 2008 8:51 am

This isn't a direct comparison between the players, but their supporting casts. Not including the players mentioned in this comparison, which team was better; Pau Gasol's Grizzlies teams from 03-04 to 05-06, or any of Kevin Garnett's Wolves teams excluding the 03-04 team?
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Post#2 » by pillwenney » Wed May 14, 2008 8:59 am

Well if we're just looking at supporting casts, Gasol's was much, much better.

As far as the over all teams, probably still Memphis. Although, I don't know if I would take them in a 7 game series, which I know sounds weird, but I guess it's just that the playoffs usually cut off rotations anyway.

I guess I'd take the Grizz in a later series (since they'd have more bodies to make up for fatigue), and Minny in an earlier series.
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Post#3 » by WhateverBro » Wed May 14, 2008 9:41 am

Garnett's 05-06 roster is one of the worst I've seen..

Szczerbiak/Davis, Hassell, McCants, Jaric, Olowokandi/Blount, Hudson, Griffin, Carter, Dupree, Madsen, Frahm, Reed, Wright and Tskitishvili...
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Post#4 » by Kabookalu » Sat May 17, 2008 6:46 pm

So was the Grizzlies being winless in the playoffs vs. Kevin Garnett having a lackluster supporting cast most years yet winning some games a testament to Pau Gasol not being able to lead his team anywhere, or how superior Kevin Garnett is?
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Post#5 » by Sephiroth » Sat May 17, 2008 11:42 pm

21 Kevin Garnett F 6-11 220 5/19/76 Farragut Academy HS (IL) 7
9 Kendall Gill G 6-5 215 5/25/68 Illinois '90 12
16 Troy Hudson G 6-1 170 3/13/76 Southern Illinois '98 5
25 Marc Jackson C 6-10 270 1/16/75 Temple '97 2
13 Felipe Lopez G-F 6-5 195 12/19/74 St. John's '98 4
8 Rasho Nesterovic C 7-0 248 5/30/76 Slovenia 4
44 Anthony Peeler G 6-4 208 11/25/69 Missouri '92 10
36 Igor Rakocevic G 6-3 183 3/29/78 Yugoslavia R
35 Reggie Slater1 F 6-7 255 8/27/70 Wyoming '92 7
32 Joe Smith F 6-10 225 7/26/75 Maryland '95 7
1 Rod Strickland G 6-3 185 7/11/66 DePaul '89 14
10 Wally Szczerbiak G-F 6-7 244 3/5/77 Miami (Ohio) '99 3
20 Gary Trent F 6-8 250 9/22/74 Ohio '96 7
29 Mike Wilks2 G 5-10 185 5/7/79 Rice '01 R
3 Loren Woods C 7-1 246 6/21/78 Arizona '01 1

This is the T-Wolves' 02-03 squad. Half of these guys aren't even in the NBA anymore. Wally was injured this season too.

Guess how they did?

51-31 and 4th seed in the West. Amazing how KG and a bunch of scrubs used to make the Playoffs consistently.

Starting lineup looked like this most of the time:

C - Rasho Nesterovic
PF - Joe Smith
SF - Kevin Garnett
SG - Anthony Peeler
PG - Troy Hudson

Unbelievable.
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Post#6 » by pillwenney » Sun May 18, 2008 12:00 am

Choker wrote:So was the Grizzlies being winless in the playoffs vs. Kevin Garnett having a lackluster supporting cast most years yet winning some games a testament to Pau Gasol not being able to lead his team anywhere, or how superior Kevin Garnett is?


Definitely both IMO. As the previous post noted, KG had a really crappy supporting cast with which he did the most he could. Pau had a supporting cast that many franchise players would love to have, and couldn't even win a playoff game.
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Post#7 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun May 18, 2008 1:55 am

While I don't think Pau's teams were stellar by any stretch of the imagination, they were head and shoulders superior to anything KG had. Jesus H. Christ, look at that Wolves squad, how can you put that together and feel like you did your job as a GM. :nonono:
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Post#8 » by T-Spot » Sun May 18, 2008 3:02 am

Garnett was Robin to Rasho's Batman, so its no surprise a team full of scrubs could contend.
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Post#9 » by Reks » Sun May 18, 2008 6:34 pm

KG was all by himself. So was Pau. But KG had it worse.
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