New Positions

srt4b · Post #21 » by **srt4b** » Wed May 14, 2008 2:16 am

The Laker Kid wrote:How about Pointless?

giordunk · Post #22 » by **giordunk** » Wed May 14, 2008 3:09 am

I think the All-Star ballot should be separated as 1 PG, 2 Wings and 2 post players. Power Forward and Center are very similar, but Point Guard and Shooting Guard not so much.

Post #23 » by **bleu** » Wed May 14, 2008 3:27 am

Morten Jensen wrote:C
PF
SF
SG
PG

Works for me

Couldn't agree more.

RJM · Post #24 » by **RJM** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:02 am

The Laker Kid wrote:How about Pointless?

GJense4181 · Post #25 » by **GJense4181** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:07 am

Position we see; What we call it; Example
PG=pure point guard=Jose Calderon
PG/SG=combo guard=Monta Ellis
SG=shooting/scoring guard=Kevin Martin
SG/SF=swingman=Vince Carter
PG/SF=point-forward=Marko Jaric
SF=small forward=Tayshaun Prince
SF/PF=forward=Shawn Marion
PF=power forward=Chris Bosh
PF/C=big man=Tim Duncan
C=center=Dwight Howard

Reks · Post #26 » by **Reks** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:13 am

I personally like
1
2
3
4
5

prototype · Post #27 » by **prototype** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:36 am

The Laker Kid wrote:How about Pointless?

I literally LOL at that.

OmniDEN · Post #28 » by **OmniDEN** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:50 am

Pretty dumb idea imo..

If anything they should be LESS specific, like guard/forward/center. Not more specific...

Jonathan Watters · Post #29 » by **Jonathan Watters** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:54 am

I actually think this classification works fairly well and accurately describes a lot of teams better than the traditional positions.

PG
CG
W
CF
P

nba_addict · Post #30 » by **nba_addict** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:22 am

Combo G/F/C - Boris Diaw

maxwellcu · Post #31 » by **maxwellcu** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:19 am

As far as I'm concerned regarding what I've seen, the best way to categorize players would be

PG

SG/SF

PF/C

Alot of guys can run either the 4 or the 5, and frankly they play pretty similarly. SG/SF as well, most play on the perimeter (although some guys like Melo prefer to work off the block).

TBH though I think 1-5 works fine really, sometimes you just need to make the distinction between guys who are "pure" at their position and guys who are 2/3 or, more commonly, 4/5.

RIPskaterdude · Post #32 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:10 pm

lukeridenour wrote:useless-derek martin
warrior-iverson
cute-ronny turiaf
slowfooted-big Z

thats all i can think of

chrbal · Post #33 » by **chrbal** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:41 pm

I'm pretty much fine with the original 5 (PG, SG, SF, PF, C). Why worry about defining everything/everyone?

If you're going to add anything, it should be like the specialists of the bench; 3pt gunner, defensive specialist, throwback big (Turaif, damn that was nasty), and useless (Jerome James, Darrick Martin, Etc.)

PimpHandStrong · Post #34 » by **PimpHandStrong** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:46 pm

maxwellcu wrote:As far as I'm concerned regarding what I've seen, the best way to categorize players would be

PG

SG/SF

PF/C

Alot of guys can run either the 4 or the 5, and frankly they play pretty similarly. SG/SF as well, most play on the perimeter (although some guys like Melo prefer to work off the block).

TBH though I think 1-5 works fine really, sometimes you just need to make the distinction between guys who are "pure" at their position and guys who are 2/3 or, more commonly, 4/5.

In this vein, I think calling it "point" is unfair. Where does a small 2 guard fit? He's neither a true point or a wing player.

Small (guard)
Wing
Big

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #35 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:22 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:Just leave it as guard, wing and forward. That encompasses everything that they do without all these minutia. Pure centre? What's that as opposed to a post player? And what makes Dwight Howard one? Why isn't he a post player? And shouldn't pure centres be post players? What was Shaquille O'Neal, Yao Ming, Kareem and Wilt?

PG, wing, and big encompass the positions in college basketball because of the roster turnover and lack of ideal sized players, but I think in the NBA, a team needs more than 3 distinct types of players, mostly because of the diversity of the opponents. Wings come in sizes from 6'4 to 6'10 in the NBA, and match up disadvantages will kill you. A 6'4 wing is a SG, and a 6'10 wing is a SF. Same with the difference between PF and C. Undersized guys like Gomes and Millsap are way too small to defend guys like Yao or Howard, but in college you don't have developed bigs like that. Hence big in college basketball vs. PF/C in the NBA.

Chubby Chaser · Post #36 » by **Chubby Chaser** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:30 pm

The Laker Kid wrote:How about Pointless?

+1

BruceO · Post #37 » by **BruceO** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:51 am

I think its interesting to think about the new positions instead of dismissing them right away. You have different size players who play the same position theoretically, but have different skill sets and different roles due to those skill sets but somehow they do or do not play towards the bigger picture. Are they the right combination of players. E.g like has anyone questioned why we use a pg, sg, sf, Pf and C? yet that combination is used alot without question, Then you find teams like Atlanta with alot of SF's playing different positions.

The combinations might be important and the list the original poster gave defines some of the roles well. YOu have people like odom working as point forwards, you have centers who pass out of the high post alot, you have scoring guards etc. and these guys work well with specific type role players. Maybe you had a scoring guard and they work well with Point forwards but you just have a SF doing prototype small forward work.

From some of the answers I dont know if anyone gave the original poster any thought and became flippant with their answers

Joseph17 · Post #38 » by **Joseph17** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:18 am

The Laker Kid wrote:How about Pointless?

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midranger · Post #39 » by **midranger** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:08 pm

There are three positions in the NBA.

Lead Guard
Wing
Bigman