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Post#41 » by arjwdotcom » Tue May 13, 2008 3:27 pm

SendEm wrote:If the Sixers add another Jason Smith/Rodney Carney level young flawed player to the roster with no starting potential for next season (or in this case for a career), we fail.


Do you mean flawed as in, little to produce and little room for mental growth? Or do you mean flawed as in we have too many of those types of players already and need to get something else in that category of developing potential for another position?
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Post#42 » by SendEm » Tue May 13, 2008 4:12 pm

arjwdotcom wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Do you mean flawed as in, little to produce and little room for mental growth? Or do you mean flawed as in we have too many of those types of players already and need to get something else in that category of developing potential for another position?


Flawed as in "little to produce and little room for mental growth." Carney's inability to create anything and Jason Smith's abnormally short arms place a cap on their ceiling. Carney would have to develop a Jason Kapono type jump shot and Jason Smith would have to develop floaters like Antawn Jamison to become what we need in a starter. I don't see either happening.
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Post#43 » by tk76 » Tue May 13, 2008 4:59 pm

What you are ponting to is the new post lottery reality for the Sixers. Its not that its impossible to draft a star outside the lottery, but realistiucally you have to expect role players or high risk projects.

This is particularly an issue with the Sixers since they lack a true superstar. Thad and Iguodala might further develop into stars, but they still desperately need an elite player. The most likely way to get one will be through a trade- since 11M cap space in itself probably isn't enough to sign a star.

At least the Sixers have all of the peices needed to make a big move (cap space, expirings, prospects) but it is all on Ed to make the right move (which for this summer might mean avoiding making the wrong move.) If this team does not add a star to its young core it likely will never grow into a contender.
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Post#44 » by freshie2 » Wed May 14, 2008 1:21 am

The Sixers need to address the upgrade @ PF via FA, and then draft another big to improve the overall depth up front...until they do that, there is really no chance. At 16, they have a pretty good shot at drafting a center who is an upgraded backup behind Dalembert, and still could develop into a starter down the road. If you don't have a dominant big man, you need multiple quality big men, and the Sixers have very little shot of getting a dominant big man.
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Post#45 » by ZigZag » Wed May 14, 2008 10:04 am

LOL Sendem just gave a charles barkley "i dont got a clue" answer.

Everyone doesn't agree with my pick but dont know who to draft. :lol:

Hey atleast i have plan fellas! i been pretty good with my picks in previous drafts...when drafted rentzias or w/e his name was i was crying for the sixers to draft boozer....now everybody talking about we need a low post presence. :rofl:
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Post#46 » by freshie2 » Wed May 14, 2008 10:26 am

If Greene is there @ 16, it's not an awful pick, but he has a lot of questions if you hope to fill the PF spot with him. He's young, so he may toughen up a bit, but at this point he probably has a hard time getting regular time on this team. Unless things change drastically, there will be a legit big man prospect there with as much upside as Greene, who probably fills in off the bench behind Sam or @ the 4.
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Post#47 » by Salvistine24 » Wed May 14, 2008 7:20 pm

interesting debates....

i tend to agree with ITB on the fact at 16 with this team, u take the risk on a project who could turn out to be great...we still have holes and wont truly be able to compete for a conference title next year so why draft limited role players when u still need to somehow, someway find that pf who you can build around

and i dont think thad should be a full time pf, i also think his shooting will improve as well as his outside game when he spends time on it...i think moving thad to pf based on this years play is wrong...just bc he struggled from the perimeter in his rookie season doesnt mean he doesnt have the work ethic to succeed (and the skillset)
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Post#48 » by tk76 » Wed May 14, 2008 7:56 pm

Agreed. Playing Thad at PF was a good idea since it both helped the team and got him on the floor in a position where he could contribute. As he gets more aclimated to the wing I see more of his minutes coming at SF.

He certainly should be good for some minutes at PF, and should be given the chance to score in the post- but he should not be seen as a long term solution to our hole at PF. I think Ed feels this way too.
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Post#49 » by Skates » Wed May 14, 2008 9:10 pm

Predicting what we do at 16 is impossible not only because of the huge number of possible players available, but also because we ahve no idea where Stafnski is going this summer. If he works out a major deal before the draft, even if it's not official, the draft pick may be our fist clue about the deal going down. If we pick a wing player you can bet there must be some deal on the table for one or more of our SG/SF types to be on the move.

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