Carmelo Anthony or Tracy Mcgrady, who's better?

[Peanut]

I go with Carmelo and really don't think its close.

Edit: The healthy Tmac thing cannot be used because its been 6 seasons since he's fully been healthy with was the 02-03 season. Please post your vote as well.

[magicfan4life05]

right now? better player is tmac

[tmac4real]

Tmac..

[Baller 24]

Lets see..
Carlemo Anthony has never been a top 10 MVP vote getter.

Tmac even when unhealthy, and having his worst season this year, makes it in the top 10:
2000-01 NBA 0.052 (6)
2001-02 NBA 0.310 (4)
2002-03 NBA 0.359 (4)
2004-05 NBA 0.035 (7)
2006-07 NBA 0.085 (6)
2007-08 NBA 0.015 (8)
Not to mention, even when injured, he makes the All-NBA team.


McGrady without Yao the past two seasons, leads a team to win 51+ games, while poor Melo can't do it with AI. Lets think of it this way, switch McGrady and Melo in their current spots, who makes the playoffs? and who doesn't? which team becomes better? and which doesn't? Mcgrady with a mediocre cast makes the playoffs while winning 55 games, and gets home court. While Melo with a BETTER supporting cast then Mac's barley gets into the playoffs? and struggles to win 50 games in a season? Pretty hard to believe.

Behind LBJ, McGrady is the best play-maker for a player that doesn't play point guard. McGrady defensively and one on one is much better. The only thing Melo currently has on Tmac is scoring, which where McGrady has been playing injured throughout the season.

So again, excluding the Toronto years, McGrady has his worst year, but yet he manages to get 8th in MVP voting? and makes the All-NBA 3rd team? While Melo is getting better and better each year, yet isn't top 10 in MVP voting, and doesn't even make the NBA team? There is a reason why the Nuggets have been reported to listen to offers for Melo.

Call me a T-Mac homer if you must, but the proof is there.

EDIT: And to the original poster, McGrady's last most healthy season was 2004-2005, not 2002-2003.

[Reks]

T-Mac is rolling over in his grave. This is an insult.

[schneiderjazz]

Melo puts up amazing numbers, but McGrady seems to have a bigger impact on the game, specially for his playmaking ability.

[Farsi Man]

in a 1 on 1 Melo wins but I'll take TMac for my team.

He's a way better passer and way better defender.

[Patterns]

Melo puts up amazing numbers, but McGrady seems to have a bigger impact on the game, specially for his playmaking ability.

No, not really.

[Baller 24]

Melo puts up amazing numbers, but McGrady seems to have a bigger impact on the game, specially for his playmaking ability.

Yeah in the turnover department.

[maxwellcu]

Care to direct me to another high scoring wing player who shoots 49%+? Here's a hint: there isn't one. This board vastly underrates 'Melo. He's an elite scorer (his #s went down this year because he plays with Iverson... although they are still good), the 2nd best rebounder at his position in the league, and an above average passer.

Hate on his defense all you want but to say he's not a good statistical player is a bit asinine.

[tmac4real]

Care to direct me to another high scoring wing player who shoots 49%+? Here's a hint: there isn't one. This board vastly underrates 'Melo. He's an elite scorer (his #s went down this year because he plays with Iverson... although they are still good), the 2nd best rebounder at his position in the league, and an above average passer.

Hate on his defense all you want but to say he's not a good statistical player is a bit asinine.

He may be an elite scorer but his impact on the game overall is much less than Lebron, Wade, Tmac or Kobe.

[PaKwAn]

Tracy McGrady

[The_Believer]

Melo's character issues are a huge concern for a team. Plus, can he do anything but score? Mac easily now.

[Malinhion]

The only reason that this used to be a debate is ebcause Carmelo was a lackluster rebounder for his size. This year he was probably the best rebounding small forward in the NBA. That is, if you count Jamison as a PF.

[Baller 24]

The only reason that this used to be a debate is ebcause Carmelo was a lackluster rebounder for his size. This year he was probably the best rebounding small forward in the NBA. That is, if you count Jamison as a PF.

Jamison can't be counted, but there is a guy called Lamar Odom who averaged 10 rebounds while playing SF.

[tmac4real]

The only reason that this used to be a debate is ebcause Carmelo was a lackluster rebounder for his size. This year he was probably the best rebounding small forward in the NBA. That is, if you count Jamison as a PF.

No the only reason this is a debate is because McGrady was/is playing injured...

[Malinhion]

McGrady is one of the worst volume scorers in the game. He barely breaks 20 ppg, shooting 41%. His true shooting percentage is lower than Melo's FG%. People love to rip on Melo all the time for shooting a bad 3-point percentage, but he's shooitng MUCH better from behind the arc than McGrady, who seems to camp out there all day and hit absolutely nothing.

McGrady's playmaking is vastly overrated. Sure, he keeps his turnovers down, but its because he never comes within 22 feet of the basket! Furthermore, his assist totals were never even that impressive until the past couple years. Half his dimes come off the p'n'r anyhow, not his own slashing and creative ballhandling skills.

You can rip on Carmelo all you want for being turnover prone, but its because he plays in the paint. It's bound to happen that way. When you play closer to the basket you have more turnovers and a higher FG%. It's a simple give-and-take. I'll take the one extra turnover a thousand times if you're gonna give me a guy nearly shooting 50% (and improving every year on that mark) from the wing position. His TS% is ten points higher! That's the difference between LeBron James and Yi Jianlian!

And don't tell me that McGrady has a crappy FG% because he's the only guy on the team. Yao is there stuffing the middle. Battier is a very solid spot-up shooter. If he was such the phenomenal playmaker that he gets credit for, we would eb talking more about the Rockets roleplayers and how he gets them involved. he doesn't. Bottom line.

MgGrady only puts up the points and assist totals that he does because he consistently has one of the highest usage rates in the league. You're bound to average 21-6 if you hold the ball the entire game. But shooting 41% and having a 2-1 ast:to ratio is not an impressive way to do that!

Gimme Carmelo now and forever. He's younger, more aggressive, a better rebounder, and an infinitely better scorer.

People are still jockriding McGrady because he had two phenomenal seasons on a squad full of scrubs. He's never been the same since and people refuse to ackowledge it. He kills your team. Face it.

[SuigintouEV]

gimme t-mac. Melo's high FG% is because he gets so many dunks in the open court. T-mac plays in the half court, so his %s are weak but he's doing a lot more for his team in the half court. You can always find regular season athletes to run the court and finish in transition, but come playoff time with scouting and coaching leading to transition defense, you see the player's true impact.

T-mac in this year's playoffs:
27.0 ppg on 47.8% TS%
8.2 rpg
6.8 apg
1.5 spg
0.8 bpg
3 TO
41.2 mpg
1.3 personal fouls

Melo in this year's playoffs:
22.5 ppg on 44.7% TS%
9.5 rpg
2.0 apg
0.5 spg
0.2 bpg
3 TO
36.5 mpg
4.3 personal fouls

T-mac is still better

[tmac4real]

gimme t-mac. Melo's high FG% is because he gets so many dunks in the open court. T-mac plays in the half court, so his %s are weak but he's doing a lot more for his team in the half court. You can always find regular season athletes to run the court and finish in transition, but come playoff time with scouting and coaching leading to transition defense, you see the player's true impact.

T-mac in this year's playoffs:
27.0 ppg on 47.8% TS%
8.2 rpg
6.8 apg
1.5 spg
0.8 bpg
3 TO
41.2 mpg
1.3 personal fouls

Melo in this year's playoffs:
22.5 ppg on 44.7% TS%
9.5 rpg
2.0 apg
0.5 spg
0.2 bpg
3 TO
36.5 mpg
4.3 personal fouls

T-mac is still better

Tmac vs. Jazz 6 games.
Melo vs. Lakers 4 games got swept with AI on his team.

I'll give anyone that Lebron/Wade can be said to be better and more playoff success, but Melo is a joke and just pushing it.

[shawngoat23]

Give me Tracy McGrady. He's certainly an ineffective scorer, but he has intangibles that Carmelo simply doesn't.