Any interest in this trade scenario?

[Cyberstorm3000]

Trade ID #4593404

Dallas Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -6.0 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -4.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 25.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
15.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.2 apg in 31.4 minutes
Eddie Jones
6-6 SG / SF from Temple
3.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 19.6 minutes

and follow up with this trade

Change in Team Outlook: +4.5 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and +0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
12.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.1 minutes
Corey Maggette
6-6 SF from Duke
22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 35.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Josh Howard
6-5 SG / SF from Wake Forrest
19.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
10.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 24.4 minutes
Include the Clipper's first rounder for 2008.

[Captain_Obvious]

Trade ID #4593404

Dallas Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -6.0 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -4.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 25.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
15.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.2 apg in 31.4 minutes
Eddie Jones
6-6 SG / SF from Temple
3.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 19.6 minutes

and follow up with this trade

Change in Team Outlook: +4.5 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and +0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
12.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.1 minutes
Corey Maggette
6-6 SF from Duke
22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 35.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Josh Howard
6-5 SG / SF from Wake Forrest
19.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jerry Stackhouse
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
10.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 24.4 minutes
Include the Clipper's first rounder for 2008.

The first trade for Curry is really tough to answer, i'm split there. But i guess it will never come close to really happening. NY is going into a new direction with Walsh as their GM. Taking on Terry with his massive contract, his age and his limited role will result in an easy reject on their part. Curry, for all his flaws, is younger, a center and on top his contract is one year shorter.

The second deal is w/out the Clippers first an easy no for me, with the first we'd have to do it. But i dont see the Clippers offering Maggette and their first for a player like Howard.

[Cyberstorm3000]

The Knicks are trying to build a team that fits D'antoni. Curry and Randolph cannot play together in the half court. Randolph more closely fits what D'antoni will need. They are already talking marberry for Diaw and Barbosa. I bet JET would thrive in an offense where it is truly run and shoot. He could be a short Raja(without the D) for them. someone who can score in bunches and could keep up with their style of play.

As far as the second trade. It was on the Clippers forum and they were all over it.

[Captain_Obvious]

The Knicks are trying to build a team that fits D'antoni. Curry and Randolph cannot play together in the half court. Randolph more closely fits what D'antoni will need. They are already talking marberry for Diaw and Barbosa. I bet JET would thrive in an offense where it is truly run and shoot. He could be a short Raja(without the D) for them. someone who can score in bunches and could keep up with their style of play.

As far as the second trade. It was on the Clippers forum and they were all over it.

I think Jason can be very effective in the right system, but for how long. I guess its a gamble on both sides, for us gambling on Curry to show us something and for NY that Jason will be great into his mid 30's. I think it takes more than 2 years to turn the Knicks franchise around, but if they want to gamble this would make sense.

Maggette, their first and filler for Howard and expiring is a great deal for us.

Wait, i just looked it up, its Josh and Jet for the Clippers package. I dont know about that. Its a lot closer, but i still may do that.

EDIT: In the original deal the Clips included their 09/10 first, i guess its fair to sub Stacks expiring in for Jet and they take their future first out.

Dallas:
Dampier/Curry
Dirk/Bass
Maggette/George
Mayo/MLE(JR?)
Kidd/Min/Barea

[Rand10]

1st trade: Curry is a terrible fit next to Kidd, and Terry is a great fit. No chance that happens.
2nd trade: We downgrade from Howard to Maggette and get to take on $10 mil more salary by trading Stack for Mobley. No thanks.

[JES12]

Please keep curry away!

[Cyberstorm3000]

I only suggest Curry because he is not a fit with D'antoni's system, so he is probably available. If we get Curry he instantly takes pressure off Dirk, because he can score in the paint. He gives Kidd another target that can finish. He won't interfere with Dirk's game because Dirk could then play more of a midrange game which is his strength. We would finally have a scorer in the post. Defense would suffer, but you can bring Damp in for that. I was hoping to sign J.R. Smith with the MLE to start at the 2 next to Magette bringing Mobley off the bench.

[sweet daddy]

I only suggest Curry because he is not a fit with D'antoni's system, so he is probably available. If we get Curry he instantly takes pressure off Dirk, because he can score in the paint. He gives Kidd another target that can finish. He won't interfere with Dirk's game because Dirk could then play more of a midrange game which is his strength. We would finally have a scorer in the post. Defense would suffer, but you can bring Damp in for that. I was hoping to sign J.R. Smith with the MLE to start at the 2 next to Magette bringing Mobley off the bench.

Don't know exactly how I feel about Curry, either. But one thing you must admit is that he is a bonafide low post scoring threat, which we desperately need. He only plays 25 minutes a game, which fits pretty closely with Damp's 25. We'd have an offense/defense rotation at center that would provide 18 pts, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks. That's better than we've had at the position since .... ever. Well, since Donaldson and Tarpley anyway.

It's the sort of move you have to at least think about if you're going to try and win with Dirk. Trading small for big is nice. But you've got to go replace Terry in the guard rotation.

[HMFFL]

I didn't even look at the trade once I saw Curry's name mentioned. So, that means I refuse to support any trade that involves him.

[dirkforpres]

Curry isnt bad, but he isnt worth JET... I would give Stackhouse for him.

[Cyberstorm3000]

I don't think Curry is the savior, but he is better offensively than Damp or Diop who has been floated as coming back. And remeber Isaiah is not running NY so we may have to trade value for value. JET is not the best MAV even though I like him. I saw a trade of JET for Bobby Jackson who has no value to me. The proposal also gets us Maggette, Mobly and J.R. Smith. I think this would shore up the shooting guard and SF positions.

[Pointguard01]

Curry is not coming here. Period. Thats ugly to think Dirk and Curry would be defending the paint, even for just 25 minutes a game. Yes, I have no interest in keeping Stackhouse and would love to move Terry, but I want no part of Curry on my team at his salary. If he made half of what he does, I wouldnt mind him coming off the bench, but he makes 9 million and worth half of that.

[JES12]

It's the sort of move you have to at least think about if you're going to try and win with Dirk. Trading small for big is nice. But you've got to go replace Terry in the guard rotation.

Nope, it's not!

I agree with HMMFL....stopped reading at Curry's name. There is not one player on this team that makes enough money salary wise I would concider giving up for Curry.

That does mean Jason Terry. We are currently okay at defence in the middle and the #2 rebounding team in the league. That all changes with Mr. cheeseburger with heart problems (dennotatively & connotativley).

BTW Offenive/defensive combo can also mean horrible offense/horrible defense combo also.

[Cyberstorm3000]

So you would rather trade for JO with his thousand year old knees? This isn't a sexy trade for a big name. I was looking for servicaeble pieces that can produce, from bad teams already in rebuilding mode. If you can pull off the trade with the Clips then I would wait until the draft and make sure they get us Brooks Lopez. Otherwise show me a better REALISTIC trade to give us a low post offensive threat.

[sweet daddy]

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Nope, it's not!

I agree with HMMFL....stopped reading at Curry's name. There is not one player on this team that makes enough money salary wise I would concider giving up for Curry.

That does mean Jason Terry. We are currently okay at defence in the middle and the #2 rebounding team in the league. That all changes with Mr. cheeseburger with heart problems (dennotatively & connotativley).

BTW Offenive/defensive combo can also mean horrible offense/horrible defense combo also.

Yep, it is! I didn't say that I would definitely do it. I said that it's something you have to at least think about, and you do. If you're a prudent front office you explore everything. He clearly isn't the perfect player ... if he was he wouldn't be available. We've got people talking about JO and Artest, for goodness sakes. Who'd have thunk it?!

But he is a true low post scoring center, and one that might be available. You look at the pluses and the minuses, and decide if he's a fit. I think he's too expensive for what he brings, so I do fall on your side in the end. But you can't just dismiss it. He's got a skillset that we are lacking here, that might make us better. That's what the FO gets paid to look at.

[JES12]

Well, I guess we see it differently, because I see nothing from Curry at center that can be done just as well if not better and cheaper with a frontcourt of Dirk/Bass.

[sweet daddy]

Well, I guess we see it differently, because I see nothing from Curry at center that can be done just as well if not better and cheaper with a frontcourt of Dirk/Bass.

I don't think we disagree near as much as you do. Except that I think Bass and Curry are very different players. Bass is an undersized pf/c with lots of athleticism and muscle who likes short jumpers as much as he likes playing under the basket. Curry is a big, traditional low post center who can establish position against anybody, and makes all his shots under the basket. Completely different.

Of the two players, Bass is the more attractive in the long run. Younger (although Curry is only 25), more athletic, cheaper, more of a sparkplug type player. I just think that Curry has something that this team needs, which is legitimate low post scoring ability. I'm not saying that he brings us a ring, but if you believe like I do that we'll never win a ring without a low post scorer, then you have to figure out how we get one with the players and trade possibilities that we have currently. For once, it would be nice for opponents to have to figure out how to stop one of our centers from scoring. That's all I'm saying.

[Captain_Obvious]

Of the two players, Bass is the more attractive in the long run. Younger (although Curry is only 25), more athletic, cheaper, more of a sparkplug type player. I just think that Curry has something that this team needs, which is legitimate low post scoring ability. I'm not saying that he brings us a ring, but if you believe like I do that we'll never win a ring without a low post scorer, then you have to figure out how we get one with the players and trade possibilities that we have currently. For once, it would be nice for opponents to have to figure out how to stop one of our centers from scoring. That's all I'm saying.

I agree. I have to add that i was so astonished what Kidd was able to do with Damp. Curry has scored a lot of times well into the +20 points, he could do great things behind Damp and with Kidd feeding him the ball.

But then i dont think NY touches Jason for Curry.