RIEHLDEAL's Big Board as of 5/15/08

riehldeal · Post #1 » by **riehldeal** » Thu May 15, 2008 7:52 pm

1. Rose
2. Beasley
3. Mayo
4. McGee
5. Arthur
6. Alexander
7. Randolph
8. Batum
9. Gordon
10. Lopez
11. Bayless
12. Budinger
13. Love
14. Gallinari
15. Thompson
16. Lee
17. Westbrook
18. Speights
19. Jordan
20. Koufos
21. Rush
22. Augustin
23. Lopez
24. Greene
25. Giddens
26. Hendrix
27. Hibbert
28. Walker
29. Ajinca
30. CDR

1-7 are absolutely locked in but the rest is still somewhat fluid up to a range of a pick or two (ex. 12-14 & 17-20)

Rip it apart guys, I know you want to.....

Relentless88 · Post #2 » by **Relentless88** » Thu May 15, 2008 7:55 pm

Bayless and Gallinari way too low...

McGee is 10 spots too high.

GLtrojans · Post #3 » by **GLtrojans** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:00 pm

alexander is way too high. no way is he better than bayless or brooke lopez

GJense4181 · Post #4 » by **GJense4181** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:20 pm

Brook Lopez is trash.
When will people realize?

Cammo101 · Post #5 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:25 pm

Wow. This list could be upside down.

ISB · Post #6 » by **ISB** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:57 pm

Augustin #22? McGee #4? Alexander #6?

k.

i'll just stop there. lol

GSW2K4 · Post #7 » by **GSW2K4** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:49 pm

riehldeal wrote:4. McGee

What do you see in McGee?

I've watched some clips here and there and I would compare him to Channing Frye. What I fear is that he won't have the bulk for his game to translate to the NBA. That could affect his scoring, rebounding, and defense.

He won't be bad, but I'm not sure he should be the first center off the board either.

deeney0 · Post #8 » by **deeney0** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:52 pm

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks most people are terribly underrating Alexander. I don't think I'd have him as high as 6, but he should be lotto.

yearsago · Post #9 » by **yearsago** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:11 pm

Seattle takes CDR before Greene.

pr0wler · Post #10 » by **pr0wler** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:16 pm

yearsago · Post #11 » by **yearsago** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:18 pm

yearsago wrote:Seattle takes CDR before Greene.

I thought you were talking about the 6th man from UNC, even still, Seattle Does not need another SF.

riehldeal · Post #12 » by **riehldeal** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:34 am

To all those saying that this team or that team would rather take a different player, I remind you to look at this thread's title and see that this is a BIG BOARD not a mock

Javale possesses one of the more staggering skill sets (especially the ball skills, jump shot, and developing hook shot) I have seen for such a long and athletic player....I would encourage you to look closely at his frame because I personally feel that he will fill out rather nicely (reminds me a great deal of Lamarcus Aldridge) and this will only make him that much more devastating.....don't get me wrong there is much work to be done but the upside is too much to ignore

Cammo101 · Post #13 » by **Cammo101** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:54 am

riehldeal wrote:To all those saying that this team or that team would rather take a different player, I remind you to look at this thread's title and see that this is a BIG BOARD not a mock

Javale possesses one of the more staggering skill sets (especially the ball skills, jump shot, and developing hook shot) I have seen for such a long and athletic player....I would encourage you to look closely at his frame because I personally feel that he will fill out rather nicely (reminds me a great deal of Lamarcus Aldridge) and this will only make him that much more devastating.....don't get me wrong there is much work to be done but the upside is too much to ignore

He has some nice skills, but he is lightyears away from contributing. McGee is one of the most raw players in this draft and his actual game does not translate to the sum of the parts. He has a slow first step and is pretty weak at this point. He could become a good player, but he is a huge risk to be taking in the top 10. I see no reason why if some team was going to take a risk like that, they would not just take Jordan. He has even more upside and a better NBA body.

There is a pretty good chance that he is this years Patrick O'Bryant.

princeofpalace · Post #14 » by **princeofpalace** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:02 am

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Personally I think McGee has more upside than Jordan. They are equaly athletic and the same height, McGee seems to have more length but Jordan weighs more. (Players can get stronger but they cannot get longer). In addition, McGee has range out to the 3 point line wheras Deandre only has range out to 5 feet.

If I had a choice between two 7 foot athletic bigmen, one who can shoot the ball well regularly and one who only knows how to dunk. I think Id take the guy who can shoot it over the one who cant. Both players have extremly high bust potential though and can become Patrick Obryants.

AQuintus · Post #15 » by **AQuintus** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:42 am

If I had a choice between two athletic 7 footers, I think I would take the one who plays better defense. And according to most sources that I've read, McGee couldn't guard a chair.

On top of that, they don't have the same amount of upside. Every professional scouting source I've seen says that Jordan's ceiling is somewhere between Howard and Bynum, whereas McGee's ceiling right around Channing Frye. They both have the same floor, though (the aforementioned Patrick O'Bryant).

riehldeal · Post #16 » by **riehldeal** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:45 am

princeofpalace wrote:^
Personally I think McGee has more upside than Jordan. They are equaly athletic and the same height, McGee seems to have more length but Jordan weighs more. (Players can get stronger but they cannot get longer). In addition, McGee has range out to the 3 point line wheras Deandre only has range out to 5 feet.

If I had a choice between two 7 foot athletic bigmen, one who can shoot the ball well regularly and one who only knows how to dunk. I think Id take the guy who can shoot it over the one who cant. Both players have extremly high bust potential though and can become Patrick Obryants.

Bingo......don't make this harder than it has to be....just ask yourself, who is and will be the better BASKETBALL player?

and about the size issues...
Sure McGee won't be incredible hulk in a few years but I really feel he will develop his body/strength quite nicely.....never gonna be huge in his legs but his upper body shows great potential imo

riehldeal · Post #17 » by **riehldeal** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:46 am

AQuintus wrote:If I had a choice between two athletic 7 footers, I think I would take the one who plays better defense. And according to most sources that I've read, McGee couldn't guard a chair.

On top of that, they don't have the same amount of upside. Every professional scouting source I've seen says that Jordan's ceiling is somewhere between Howard and Bynum, whereas McGee's ceiling right around Channing Frye. They both have the same floor, though (the aforementioned Patrick O'Bryant).

wow!!!! I am gonna have to greatly disagree with McGee's ceiling being Channing Frye.....if he gets with the right coach and his body develops like I think it can, the sky is the limit

princeofpalace · Post #18 » by **princeofpalace** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:49 am

AQuintus wrote:If I had a choice between two athletic 7 footers, I think I would take the one who plays better defense. And according to most sources that I've read, McGee couldn't guard a chair.

On top of that, they don't have the same amount of upside. Every professional scouting source I've seen says that Jordan's ceiling is somewhere between Howard and Bynum, whereas McGee's ceiling right around Channing Frye. They both have the same floor, though (the aforementioned Patrick O'Bryant).

It doesnt sound like youve seen either player actually play but have read DX scouting report. Neither Jordan nor McGee can play defense, they both suck equally. I would say that McGee is more lamarcus aldridge than he is Channing Frye

Cammo101 · Post #19 » by **Cammo101** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:59 am

McGee does have a higher ceiling than Frye, but it is true he can't guard a folding chair. If given the choice you have to take Jordan, better upside and less bust potential.

riehldeal · Post #20 » by **riehldeal** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:05 am

Cammo101 wrote:McGee does have a higher ceiling than Frye, but it is true he can't guard a folding chair. If given the choice you have to take Jordan, better upside and less bust potential.

Better upside?!??!! wow, have fun choosing the player with zero skills besides dunking and who is equally horrible on defense....actually I would say maybe slightly worse in that he showed zero rotational IQ and ability when it comes to weak side help/shot blocking (at least Javale flashed that).....but at least you gave me that the Frye thing is way off base as a ceiling.....I'll take the moral vistory