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Dorrel Wright? Future or Past?

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D.Wright--Future or Past

Match Offer up to 5 million
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39%
Match Offer (Full MLE-6million)
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S&T for Pick/or Player
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13%
Anything over tender let him walk
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Post#41 » by Miami's Finest » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:43 am

HeatSince88 wrote:DORELL WRIGHT: GAMES & MINUTES PLAYED (BY COACH)

Stan Van Gundy as Coach
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10 Games out of 118 Possible .............. 8.4% of team's games
Minutes Averaged Per Game ................ 6.2 minutes per game

Pat Riley as Coach
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124 Games out of 228 Possible ............. 54.3% of team's games
Minutes Averaged Per Game .................. 20.1 minutes per game



Incorrect Conclusion of the Dorell Wright Excuse Machine
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"Pat Riley has ruined Dorell by not giving him minutes. If only Stan Van Gundy were his coach, he would get more minutes and thus develop into the magical player of my wet dreams."


lol You know SVG only coached him in his rookie year, when there was no way Dorrell should have even been allowed on the court for his own safety. That argument is worthless but like I said earlier Dorrell should never have been picked to begin with and I don't have no faith in him. You keep telling yourself that Riley is a great coach for developing young guys if that's what you want to believe but it's not true. Riley at no fault of his will always coach to win, and he believes the best way to win is veterans because you know what you are going to get plain and simple.
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Post#42 » by DBurks2818 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:51 am

He was playing 30-40 mpg before his injury. Riley wants nothing but the best for him, as others mentioned the Heat doing some roster cleaning just for him last off-season.
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Post#43 » by GameTime_3 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:35 am

IF some one calls miami with a S&T do we listen? Say Dorrel For Micheal Petrius? I for one think if we go up tempo then we should lock up Dorrel to a 4yr 16million deal but if we are going to Sign Elton Brand or Beasley and go with more of a Slow tempo, I think it time to move him. Dorrel will never reach his Potential in a slow tempo Style
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Post#44 » by DayofMourning » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:57 pm

I wouldn't move Wright for Pietrus.

I hope Dorell gets it done this year so we can stop talking about his potential. :banghead:
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Post#45 » by SmushedPennies » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:26 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:He was playing 30-40 mpg before his injury. Riley wants nothing but the best for him, as others mentioned the Heat doing some roster cleaning just for him last off-season.


Once again, Kapono and Pose were let go for monetary reasons. Eddie Jones left on his own. The Heat did not "clear space" for Dorell to play.
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Post#46 » by Hoops23 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:20 am

Miami should give D. Wright a two year contract, with a team option on the 2nd year to keep their cap space in 2009.
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Post#47 » by DBurks2818 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:36 am

SmushedPennies wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Once again, Kapono and Pose were let go for monetary reasons. Eddie Jones left on his own. The Heat did not "clear space" for Dorell to play.


Whatever you want to believe. There were several articles written over the summer quoting Riley on how he made those moves specifically to see what he had in Wright.
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Post#48 » by Heat3 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:03 am

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Whatever you want to believe. There were several articles written over the summer quoting Riley on how he made those moves specifically to see what he had in Wright.


He made the moves for because of money and hoped he could get by with Wright. Later on you'll find articles of him saying it was a mistake to let some of these guys go lol.
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Post#49 » by CoolD » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:21 am

I think we have both extremes in this threads. Some give all the blame to Dorell, some to Pat. I think they are both to blame. The year Kapono got more minutes over him, Kapono got hot, was impressive, but I remember watching Dorell in some games, played really good defense. The reason I didn't really want Pono back, especially at the price Toronto got him for. He just look awful in the Playoffs, and I saw him as a weak link vs any athletic team, and intense games in defense. Dorell that year could of have had more minutes, especially when you know that in the Playoffs, you need defense, even more and Riley just don't see the big picture no more it seems.

Then came this last year. Riley put Penny Hardaway over Dorell, it was quite pathetic of Riley. I've never seen such piss poor job, than the job Riley did this season. It was beyond pathetic in every front I could think of.

But Dorell also has had immaturity issues, that are reported outside the court. Dorell is not consistent, but that is 90 percent of the NBA in his offense. Watch any guy that doesn't play full minutes, they are going to have good games and bad games. But I'vs seen some stretches of Dorell playing very good defense.

But I still have doubts, he doesn't have a complete offensive game, needs to bulk up more, that size is not going to cut it, and needs to improve his 3 point shot. But some here think this guy is going to fill up the stats, when Wade hogs the ball all day, is pretty hard to do for a role player in any team. So Riley is to blame for the pathetic offense that is run, as of late, and makes everyone look worst.
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Post#50 » by SmushedPennies » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:11 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Whatever you want to believe. There were several articles written over the summer quoting Riley on how he made those moves specifically to see what he had in Wright.


If you believe everything Riley says in the media, you haven't followed him long enough.
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Post#51 » by DBurks2818 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:56 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Whatever you want to believe.
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Post#52 » by CRHeel94 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:36 pm

SmushedPennies wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Once again, Kapono and Pose were let go for monetary reasons. Eddie Jones left on his own. The Heat did not "clear space" for Dorell to play.


That is correct, we lost Kapono and Posey on money issues. Wright as the starting SF was Plan A and that lasted for exactly 5 games before he was yanked for about 5 games before Riley realized that we had no other options. What surprised me is that we didn't have a better Plan B in the offseason; it was Penny Hardaway and a lot of hoping. And there were a few cheap swingmen options out there last summer.
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Post#53 » by DayofMourning » Sat May 10, 2008 4:42 pm

CoolD wrote:I think we have both extremes in this threads. Some give all the blame to Dorell, some to Pat. I think they are both to blame. The year Kapono got more minutes over him, Kapono got hot, was impressive, but I remember watching Dorell in some games, played really good defense. The reason I didn't really want Pono back, especially at the price Toronto got him for. He just look awful in the Playoffs, and I saw him as a weak link vs any athletic team, and intense games in defense. Dorell that year could of have had more minutes, especially when you know that in the Playoffs, you need defense, even more and Riley just don't see the big picture no more it seems.

Then came this last year. Riley put Penny Hardaway over Dorell, it was quite pathetic of Riley. I've never seen such piss poor job, than the job Riley did this season. It was beyond pathetic in every front I could think of.

But Dorell also has had immaturity issues, that are reported outside the court. Dorell is not consistent, but that is 90 percent of the NBA in his offense. Watch any guy that doesn't play full minutes, they are going to have good games and bad games. But I'vs seen some stretches of Dorell playing very good defense.

But I still have doubts, he doesn't have a complete offensive game, needs to bulk up more, that size is not going to cut it, and needs to improve his 3 point shot. But some here think this guy is going to fill up the stats, when Wade hogs the ball all day, is pretty hard to do for a role player in any team. So Riley is to blame for the pathetic offense that is run, as of late, and makes everyone look worst.


Excellent post. Pat seems to be the right man for the job when taking over veteran teams with talent, but isn't the best at letting young players play through mistakes. When Dorell's gotten minutes he's proven that he can be very productive, and efficient. He'll never be a star, but I can see him being a better version of James Posey. I'd say he develops into a fantastic role player who can drop 25 points a game when other teams forget about him, but always be an energy player with strong defense and rebounding.

Hopefully DW comes back strong from his injury and gets a chance to play 30 minutes a game under Spoelstra as a starter.
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Post#54 » by Lane1974 » Sat May 10, 2008 6:11 pm

to me, the disappointing thing is Dorell WASN'T consistent with his head being in the game at all times and being the energizer bunny and being that guy... when you can't count on young people being consistent with their shooting or defense, you can expect and demand them to bring the energy and hustle all the time, I think that's what irked Riley
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Post#55 » by DayofMourning » Sun May 11, 2008 2:44 pm

I admit that I didn't get the chance to see many Heat games this year, but Wright seemed to be very active every time I watched him play. He consistently played D and rebounded when I saw him.

Were there dropoffs in other games? I've never seen DW not play hard. From what I saw, it was his turnovers or reluctance to take a shot when he should have that irked Riley the most.

What's funny, is Riley made more out of what DW did wrong than anybody else. Half the team could make a couple of mistakes and you'd see Riley looking down his nose, holding his elbows pacing back and forth, but as soon as Wright did he'd mouth "Dammit!" and jerk in disgust.

I think he thought he had TMac2 in DW and expects to see that change happen and when he doesn't take over or he makes a bad decision due to his passiveness then Riley takes it to heart.
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Post#56 » by vincent » Mon May 12, 2008 1:14 am

Well DW1 was very inconsistent last season but once
Marion came over and show some LEADERSHIP AND
FIRE on the COURT, DW1 started to show some D and scoring ability

THEN the injury took away his season.

I have alway said to myself if DW1 was in Phoenix
his game would improves overnight.

Now with D'Antoni coach the NYK
I hope he is not a target for the Mid level Salary exp.
and the Heat can receive another year of Cheap labor from
DW1..
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Post#57 » by Chessboxer » Thu May 15, 2008 8:00 pm

I'd like to see Dorrell stick around, and agree that he just needs consistent minutes and to get comfortable with the team.

He's an excellent playmaker for his size and can rebound. The only problem I have with Dorrell seems to be his lack of aggressivenes and maybe his toughness (he can be a bit soft going to the basket at times)..

To be honest I'd like to see us keep Cook if possible.
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Post#58 » by Heat3 » Thu May 15, 2008 8:28 pm

I'd rather we bring back Posey. Boston won't be winning a chip this year anyway.
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