Melo to Jersey??

[Rich Rane]

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On team USA Melo's better than Lebron. It's funny to watch him get called for steps and whine about it.
Melo's better than Dwight
Paul might be better this year on team USA
Kobe's definitely better

I'm surprised you didn't put Kidd on the list He makes that team much better makes things easier for everybody.

I meant in the NBA. And I would take Dwight over Melo. Sure, he still needs to polish his offensive skills, but the defense is definitely there, something Melo isn't known for.

And is Kidd even playing this year on USA?

[EFF]

no need to pass up on a great scorer just cuz he doesnt do most of it in the post...at the very least our perimeter scoring gets better.

[Rich Rane]

This is a tremendous player. But we need a post scorer!!!!!!! We will still have the same issues.

Uh...we're still not contending. No one said anything about that whether we trade or don't trade for Melo. But having Melo here would be much better than running the offense and building a team through RJ.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

This is a tremendous player. But we need a post scorer!!!!!!! We will still have the same issues.

Actually, at the moment, Melo is Denver's only post scorer. Though he does have his mid-range game too.

I saw someone say they'd worry about Camby's contract? It only has two years left, and is incentive based. Base salary is 8.75 I believe. So if he gets injured or sucks, he won't be paid as much as trade checkers say. And after next season he would make a nice expiring.

[EFF]

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Actually, at the moment, Melo is Denver's only post scorer. Though he does have his mid-range game too.

I saw someone say they'd worry about Camby's contract? It only has two years left, and is incentive based. Base salary is 8.75 I believe. So if he gets injured or sucks, he won't be paid as much as trade checkers say. And after next season he would make a nice expiring.

thank you for that. That eliminates all my reservations on this. go thorn go!

[Nutty Nats Fan]

No (whomever is actually running the Nuggets) no!

Can Thorn be included in the trade?

[Mateen Cleaves]

wow, i have to say if you guys got Melo and camby you would be a scary ass team. Harris, Carter, Melo, and Camby. SICK TEAM.

[Da big3]

No (whomever is actually running the Nuggets) no!

Can Thorn be included in the trade?

nope thorn is untouchable he is our franchise player

[Chi Dynasty12]

How high of a pick do you need to get Melo? Top 5 I'm guessing?

[VCRJKidd15]

How high of a pick do you need to get Melo? Top 5 I'm guessing?

We can only get Top 3 if we dont get the any of the first 3 picks then we have the 10th pick

[EFF]

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We can only get Top 3 if we dont get the any of the first 3 picks then we have the 10th pick

vcrjkidd15...i have no idea what you just said right now.
But i think a top 10 pick is enough to get melo.
But pick 1-3 is probably off limits according to what thorn is saying.

Personally i think only picks 1 and two should be off limits because this is Melo we're talking about and after the first 2 picks, you arent so sure there is a melo caliber player in the draft. Should go with the sure thing in that situation.

[rsavaj]

I wonder if we should look at this Carmelo trade from a different perspective. Maybe we can get Melo for say RJ, S. Will and #10, but how far is that team going to go. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I don't think a Harris, Carter, Melo, Boone, Krstic goes very far in the playoffs.

Instead, maybe we should look at a Melo trade as a part of the "building towards 2010 plan." Basically what this would mean is instead of trading any key pieces for the future (ie: Harris, Boone, S. Will and pick #10), trading both Carter and Jefferson (and not taking K-Mart/Nene) as part of a 3-team trade.

I realize this is unlikely to make the team any better in 2008/09. But you'd cut more than $15 million in 10/11 (the LeBron year) and have a core of Melo, Harris, pick #10 and the young bigs. If you went in a rebuilding route, I seriously doubt you could get a young talent close to the level of Melo by trading RJ and/or Carter. Unlike the other "blow up the roster" plans, there would be a potential franchise player (Melo) on the roster if LeBron, Bosh and Wade aren't interested in coming here.

I may be in the minority here, but I'd rather trade both Carter and Jefferson than trade one of them plus a package of youth that includes pick #10.

I think that's probably a better strategy as well...would Denver/NJN go for a VC/RJ for 'Melo/Camby/contracts that expire in 2 years trade?

[ecuhus1981]

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Eh, I'm not so sure, but I might entertain something like a RJ+VC for Melo+Camby+Smith+future1st. IDK.

[MrDollarBills]

Again, who says Lebron will want to come to a garbage NJ team, which is what this team will be in 2010 if we decide to have a fire sale and tank?

Jefferson -and- Carter?? Denver wouldnt even take that regardless because of the salaries

[S.I.C. GM]

The only way we can get Lebron is to be competitive while being financially conscience.

First, Thorn, Kiki, and the Nets have to stay competitive. That means: if we get 1-3 we have to pick a franchise player that would help us win now. If we we get the #10 pick, we try to trade that along with whatever to get Melo or we try to get a big. We must continue to win. As everyone knows, VC isnt in my winning formula, but if we have to trade RJ to get melo to help us get Lebron (They are good friends and If we cant sign Wade or Bosh, Melo is the next best thing), I am for it.

Harris and Melo will help Lebron want to come to the BROOKLYN NETS.

Second, If Lebron decides to come to the Nets, We either have to have the money to sign him or pieces that the Cavs would like so they dont lose Lebron for nothing and the NETS can sign & trade him for the max.

[Da big3]

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Eh, I'm not so sure, but I might entertain something like a RJ+VC for Melo+Camby+Smith+future1st. IDK.

thats a horrible trade all we are trading is VC/RJ for Melo, camby is good but he is gonna start breaking down, if K-mart was healthy i would take him over camby.......

[MrDollarBills]

The only way we can get Lebron is to be competitive while being financially conscience.

END OF DISCUSSION

Did any of you who want to just shed every player we have for this fantasy see Lebron's disgust at the end of game 7 in Boston? Do you think King James, who takes pride in winning, would come to a NJ team full of outright garbage just because we can sign him to max money??

Keep fooling yourselves, meanwhile, i am praying we get that #3 pick so maybe, JUST MAYBE, VC and Melo can discuss who will wear #15 come this fall.

[S.I.C. GM]

^ The funny thing before people start attacking me for flip flopping.

I was for a FIRE Sale until I read an article where Thorn said we have to stay competitive and others expressed who Lebron wont come to a losing team.

So I am for staying competitive.

Bills, IMO VC wont be here when we do get Lebron. VC will be traded for another piece (sign and trade maybe) and/or expirings right before 2010.

If dreams come true, Harris, Wade, Lebron or Harris, Melo, Lebron. You can fill in the rest.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Here is a crazy idea.

Kmart/Melo for RJ, Marcus, #3 pick, Van Horn (S&T).

Now before y'all eat me alive, here is my reasoning.

You got young players: Melo, Harris, Williams, Boone, Krstic.

Starting line up might be: Kmart/Melo/Boone or Krstic?/VC/Harris.

Could use some more shooters, but that team should do well in the East, if Frank isn't as (Please Use More Appropriate Word) as Karl is.

I know, problem is big contracts, right? VC and Kmart. Kmart was healthy this year, if it helps? But here is the crazy idea. Both Kmart and VC expire in 2011 (if the salary site is right). And the goal is to grab Lebron and have a team he would want to join, right?

Well if he agrees to come to the Nets in 2010, you could S&T him with either VC or Kmart. And there is also Bosh and Wade available as well. So got either VC or Kmart to do that too. If Nets can keep drafting well and developing the younger players (or trade some firsts for future 1sts), they could have some chips to throw in by then.

Bosh/Melo/Williams/Lebron/Harris?

Yes, I earn my username, LOL. I know how highly unlikely that would be.

Edit: Ah well.. it was fun while it lasted. Good luck next year.

[airchibundo507]

Well Melo's allways been the best player ( somekind of ) on the US Roster but for some reason never played that good in Denver.

Don't know why but hopefully it's the environment...

think of it this way:

in denver, melo is playing for arguably the worst perimeter shooting team in the NBA. the nuggets may not suffer from this weakness substantially in the regular season, but come playoff time, teams bring their man into the paint, double melo, and force denver's jumpshooters (not that they have any outside of smith) to shoot the ball.

denver offense? LMAO. nuggets have no offense...at all. we are a team that focuses on isolating our best scoring options...which is weird considering we have no shooters to spread the floor, all of our scoring options are selfish and have no chemistry, and outside of melo...there is no post option on this denver squad. no offensive system means no off-ball screens, few pick-and-rolls, no back-door cuts, NO EASY BASKETS. if one of our star players has a bad offensive game...the chances of denver winning that game go down substantially.

the nuggets used to actually have a point guard in andre miller. he was a work of art. he was a great fastbreak point guard and could hit nugget players for easy baskets in transition (especially melo). in the halfcourt offense he couldn't exactly dish off penetration, but he could lob baskets to melo for plenty of easy baskets. the nuggets do not have a point guard right now. anthony carter is a 3rd string point guard who is currently starting due to injuries. allen iverson lacks basketball IQ and court vision, not to mention he is the most selfish guard in basketball today. melo gets FEW easy baskets...heck...our best alley-oop passer right now is our center.

now let's see why melo thrives in USA basketball:

his teammates can shoot the ball...melo faces fewer double teams.

jason kidd last year found melo for a lot of easy baskets. it's not hard to do so...considering that melo is the best player in the NBA at setting himself up to score WITHOUT the basketball (outside of hamilton, etc).

I'm a little bit critical of new jersey's perimeter shooting, but harris seems like a good playmaker ready to transition into great with the proper finishers on the team. I'm sure you guys have some sort of off-ball movement...which will allow melo to find guys off of the double team.

it's safe to say melo would do a lot beter in new jersey than denver.

I'd expect at least 27-28 ppg, 8 rpg, 4 apg, 49% FG.