Official Lakers Offseason Trade Suggestions & Ideas

[SashAlex]

Vlade, or Mihm and Farmar for Calderon.

[BossPlaya]

LO is goin 2 be a Laker for life. I wont want to trade him especially how hes playing in the playoffs where it counts the most. IF IF IF we do need to trade him, its either for Carmelo... Odom + Farmar for Artest + Udrih + Martin/Garcia. Those are the only two trades Mitch should listen to if the Lakers do want to trade LO.

[BossPlaya]

Id like Mitch to trade our 2nd round pick (#58) for a role player like we did 2 years ago for Maurice Evans.

[Trifecta7]

Absolutely no way. A talent downgrade doesn't sound like a swell plan.

[milesfides]

At this point, I'd only consider this if Odom struggles a bit when Bynum comes back. From Buss's point of view, how much luxury tax he's willing to spend might play a factor, i.e., if he won't extend Odom for the big bucks, might as well get something valuable for him instead of losing him for nothing.

If we win the championship this year, and Buss has no spending limits and wants to keep everybody together, I think the right move probably would be to keep this young core together and add a third PG like Chris Duhon.

Trading Odom and Farmar for Calderon is way too ballsy for the Lakers. The Lakers are painfully, some would say remarkably, conservative. The Lake show will only make big trades if they're forced to (Shaq) or if it's a no-brainer (Pau Gasol).

I can see a possible scenario though: if we suffer a meltdown against the Spurs and get swept, and either Odom or Fisher/Farmar is deemed the culprit, then I can see us pursuing Calderon with a big trade, due to a combination of team needs, high expectations, luxury tax, etc.

Personally, I see Colangelo doing everything he can to trade Ford before Calderon, he pretty much guaranteed Jose is going to stay, unless of course, there's something ridiculously awesome on the table. Is Odom and Farmar that?

I don't know. I think the Raptors need a perimeter scorer to take some pressure off Bosh, a guy like Maggette who could be had for Ford probably.

The Raptors also need a legit, young center, assuming Rasho wouldnt' be able to continue his hot streak at the end of the year. Odom, Bosh, and Bargnani aren't legit centers. They need some toughness in the middle.

I imagine Colangelo would want to draft a young, tough center, try to move Ford for a perimeter scorer like Maggette, and even move Bargnani and some other assets for a banger in the middle to help out Bosh. The Raps have enough 3-point shooters, and Bargnani kind of doesn't make sense anymore.

I don't know where that leaves us though.

[milesfides]

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[Verbal]

Is Calderon that good?

He reminds me of a young John Stockton w/ lesser defense and athletic abilities.

With that said, I'm down for it

...as long as Bynum borders on all-star level.

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[Dr Aki]

Would you deal Lamar to Miami/Chicago for the #1/#2? Not sure if I would but I'm just throwing that out there.

i'd even throw in farmar, charlotte's 09 2nd rounder and 2012 first for larry hughes and the #1(rose)

[Erik Eleven]

Is ownership down to pay the lux-tax: How much?

Sun Yue's merchandise sales will pick up that bill.

[gmurray8]

The hostilities of the trade board led me to a quick retreat to the Lakers forum where comments/criticisms from fellow Laker lovers are more constructive. Here is an idea I have hatched with the apparent lack of PG on our system.

Its not like we need a pure PG for our system. The ideal one would be someone who could shoot the 3-ball, facilitiate the Triangle and run if possible. Fisher has done a tremendous job for our team this year and that is obvious. However, due to the fact that Fish will be 34 next year and Jordan Farmar, a very well-loved member of our team, and our de facto PG if and when Fish hangs those sneakers is not quite ready yet. This is not a I-give-up-on-Farmar thread, its simply toying with an idea that could actually help the team's outlook.

Naturally, an offer of Farmar, Mihm and Walton and whatever little else we could offer drew some loud and resounding criticisms. I would not blame Toronto one bit too.

I then countered on a "what if we made Lamar Odom available?" argument, and that's where some serious and considerable chatter went through.

Lamar Odom has been Mr. do-it-all for us this year. It would be almost inconceivable to think that we will be trading him, on his best year with us so far, for something a lot of people "think" we do not need - a PG like Jose Calderon.

And so I lay the premise here once more, hoping to get your reaction, being fellow Laker bloods.

Jordan Farmar + Lamar Odom will pique Toronto's interest. In the light of the TJ Ford-Jose Calderon dilemma they're in, a considerable proposal like that would somehow tingle their willingness to send us Jose Calderon for the package mentioned above. Salaries need to match and Calderon's new contract will mean he is BYC. That sort of poses a problem for both teams in terms of making the trade legally work.

Farmar + Odom (using 08-09 salaries) will amount to 15.5m. This means Toronto needs to send back at least 13.5m of salaries to make it legal.

Suppose Jose Calderon was signed-and-traded for this package for some 45m/5 along with Rasho Nesterovic. JC's 1st year salary would amount to 7m + Rasho's 8.4m expiring deal. That would give the Lakers more or less 15.4m coming in that satisfies the legality part.

The question I then ask is, would you do it for the Lakers for these benefits:

1. Jose Calderon will inherit the PG position from Fish. He will have approximately 1 year of learning curve under Fish as Fish will be relegated to a mentor on his 3rd and final year - giving Calderon the desired starting job.

2. It would reunite Calderon and Pau Gasol. For a fan-base that includes that of Espana's best players at their prime, this is a golden opportunity.

3. JC has the 3-ball skills to be our PG and he defends the PNR decently. At least from my end, a lot better than Jordan Farmar does.

For Toronto, Lamar Odom gives them a versatile and uber-flexible player that would fit their running team. JFarm backs up TJ Ford and becomes Toronto's 6th man.



How would you rate this?

Terrible trade for the Lakers.

[djericho]

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Sun Yue's merchandise sales will pick up that bill.

+1

Even if he is relegated to NBDL duty with the D-fenders, a la Coby Karl

[bobobolas1]

To the pros of bringign calderon you have to add:

1.- it wouldnt change the good chemistry of the team

2.- not a selfish player

3.- he wont demands shoots. but we can wait from him more than 10 assist/game. a great ratio assist/to

In addiction, It is not the same to play beside kobe, gasol(they already know each other very well) and bynum.... than to the raps of first round.
The machine would be feed a lot of times by JC too.

One thing i wonder is...he is free agent. can we just sign him? LO could stay and change Farmar for a sandwich

DO IT MITCH

[TommyTheCat]

i'm interested in seeing who becomes available from the bulls team. they've got a great pick and most of their players have a lower market/trade value because of the less than stellar season.

[hermes]

To the pros of bringign calderon you have to add:

1.- it wouldnt change the good chemistry of the team

2.- not a selfish player

3.- he wont demands shoots. but we can wait from him more than 10 assist/game. a great ratio assist/to

In addiction, It is not the same to play beside kobe, gasol(they already know each other very well) and bynum.... than to the raps of first round.
The machine would be feed a lot of times by JC too.

One thing i wonder is...he is free agent. can we just sign him? LO could stay and change Farmar for a sandwich

DO IT MITCH

we'll be outbid most likely in any attempt to sign him

[ShowtimeFan]

Jose Calderon made $2.4mil last year and IS a Free Agent*, he will get a few MLE ($5.Xmil) offers, which is MORE than double of what he made this year. Pretty much ONLY Toronto will be able and willing to offer him more than the MLE.

So, Jose is FREE to accept ANY Offer from ANY Team and "IF" Pau can convince him that money should be secondary to winning a title, then Mitch should at least dangle the MLE out there in front of him.

If Jose makes it clear that he is leaving the Raptors, then they MIGHT be willing to do a sign and trade giving him a bit more money and getting some players in return.

Vlad and Farmer add up to $6.6 mil and should be enough to get the trade done.

Raps get a decent young fearless PG and a SG that can stretch defenses.

Lakers don't need Vlade with Odom moving to SG and Ariza and Walton as back-ups. And they get some competition at the Starting PG position.

* See Link: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm

[Tommy Trojan]

where would the lakers hold their parade celebrations? thats off season priority number one.

That's what i would like to know also

[Verbal]

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Sun Yue's merchandise sales will pick up that bill.

That's a lot of confidence you're showing for an unknown.


Here are a few potential road blocks:

1) Buss doesn't get paid off his jersey sales
2) Yue's not a marketing machine
3) He's still unproven
4) He would need minutes on our roster, not just garbage time (3-4 mins)


We probably won't be seeing Yue in a while - he'll grow better overseas... unless he wants to come here, and we can use him here.

His language barrier issue will be an issue, even if he does speak limited English.


Disclaimer: I haven't followed Yue, or know much about him. Just an armchair evaluation of the situation.

[edit- bolds and smiles.]

[Lost Angel]

Odom and Jordan Farmar for Jamal Crawford, David Lee, and the #6 pick?

[Verbal]

thread is fine...but no sticky yet. Its not the offseason and I dont want to look past this title run.

No sweat, it's fine by me.

I just thought it's what the people needed and wanted.


Oh, and I could always change the title.