Jerry Stackhouse

Post #61 » by **Flash3** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:59 pm

Mr. Savage wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That is pretty narrow minded...You should at least try it for yourself and then find out if you want to continue or not.
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Since when is not doing something that one shouldn't be doing in the 1st place, given faith based reasons, narrow minded?

You have your opinions and views, and I have mine. -- But, to criticize someone for doing or not doing something ,because they strongly believe otherwise for whatever reasons, is also narrow minded, in a way.

Post #62 » by **Flash3** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:00 pm

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This is absurd, plain and simple. First, there is a difference between drinking and driving and driving drunk, and if you don't understand it then your grasp on the English language is as bad as your understanding of our legal system. Second, the belief that drinking in moderation is a net negative on your life is completely illogical and without any foundation in reality.

Everyone's tolerance level is different, that goes without saying.

But, drinking and driving is never a good combination. It's just a dumb and stupid thing to do, just as driving and doing your make-up etc.

MagiChamps · Post #63 » by **MagiChamps** » Thu May 22, 2008 3:10 pm

ubernathan wrote:Drunk driving is cool as hell.

kdot99 · Post #64 » by **kdot99** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:08 pm

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Everyone's tolerance level is different, that goes without saying.

But, drinking and driving is never a good combination. It's just a dumb and stupid thing to do, just as driving and doing your make-up etc.

How can you say so when you've never had a drink yourself? If you're a big guy like Stack, 2 or 3 beers or shots doesn't hit you at all, there's no difference. The blood alcohol level in his system will be really low in comparison to say, smaller/average size people. If you think someone is going to call a cab home after taking two/three shots then you're expecting too much. If it's a small person, than yeah, it's in their best interest to not drive because most likely they're impaired to the extent where it effects the vision and senses. While some others just have high tolerances and the alcohol doesn't seem to effect them at all. [/code]

Mr. Savage · Post #65 » by **Mr. Savage** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:22 pm

Flash3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Since when is not doing something that one shouldn't be doing in the 1st place, given faith based reasons, narrow minded?

You have your opinions and views, and I have mine. -- But, to criticize someone for doing or not doing something ,because they strongly believe otherwise for whatever reasons, is also narrow minded, in a way.

I think it is narrow minded that someone leads their life based on what a religion tells him to do and what not.

Guess what ? This is 2008 and dogmatically modelling your life after writings that are over a 1000 years old is not necessary anymore.

I don't despise religion at all. I actually think religions nowadays still have a lot of practical things to offer. But on the other hand they also provide a lot stuff that nowadays is just utter Bull****. A lot of BS that does not have any practical value.
A jew whose name is Cohen is not allowed to marry a divorced or converted jewish woman. So someone who is actually a practicing jew and bears the name Cohen, would be restricted by this stupid rule that was raised maybe a 1000 or even more years ago. Imagine if we'd still live in a world dictated by stupid religious based rules like this one. That would be one terrible world.

Same with the people that don't drink or don't eat pork.
There is just no practical reason not to drink or eat pork. People nowadays are actually enlightened and educated enough to control their drinking and not do it excessively. And eating pork is no harm whatsoever. Drinking coke light is probably 1000 times more harmful than eating pork. Apples nowadays are sprayed with pesticides. Maybe if that was an issue a 1000 years ago, your religion would tell you not to eat apples or drink coke light today.
If there would be an actual reason not to drink, like mine, then there is no problem with not drinking, but people who basically restrict themselves by saying "I don't do this and that because I am prohibited to them by my religion" just tick me off. Religion is a major impediment for the development of humanity.

But I am extremely pleased that the younger generation of people really start to disregard religion or at least don't practice it. I am also happy that the enlightened lifestyle that the western world leads, has basically become the lifestyle that everyone has to lead in order to be successful in this world. Therefore, religion will soon die out just like all the other antiquities of humanity that have been shed because they haven't shown any sign of practicability.

High 5 · Post #66 » by **High 5** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:56 pm

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And you accused him of being narrow-minded?

CatNation · Post #67 » by **CatNation** » Thu May 22, 2008 6:28 pm

Mr. Savage wrote:
I think it is narrow minded that someone leads their life based on what a religion tells him to do and what not. Yeah, and you're narrow minded for thinking that. Good job.

Guess what ? This is 2008 and dogmatically modelling your life after writings that are over a 1000 years old is not necessary anymore. I don't think it has ever been necessary, its a choice on how you want to live your life, based on your beliefs. Once again, close minded...

I don't despise religion at all. I actually think religions nowadays still have a lot of practical things to offer. But on the other hand they also provide a lot stuff that nowadays is just utter Bull****. A lot of BS that does not have any practical value.
A jew whose name is Cohen is not allowed to marry a divorced or converted jewish woman. So someone who is actually a practicing jew and bears the name Cohen, would be restricted by this stupid rule that was raised maybe a 1000 or even more years ago. Imagine if we'd still live in a world dictated by stupid religious based rules like this one. That would be one terrible world. Uhh, are you a Jewish man named Cohen? No? So why do you care?

Same with the people that don't drink or don't eat pork.
There is just no practical reason not to drink or eat pork. Is there a practical reason TO drink (especially before driving) or eat pork? People nowadays are actually enlightened and educated enough to control their drinking and not do it excessively. No, they aren't. On 485 in Charlotte over the last two or three years I think there has been about 6 or 7 deaths from drunk drivers going on to the wrong side of the interstate. And eating pork is no harm whatsoever. Pork is very unhealthy. Bacon and ribs make you fat, heart problems etc. Lean pork every once in a while is ok, though Drinking coke light is probably 1000 times more harmful than eating pork. I don't think Coke was around during biblical times. Apples nowadays are sprayed with pesticides. Maybe if that was an issue a 1000 years ago, your religion would tell you not to eat apples or drink coke light today.
If there would be an actual reason not to drink, like mine, then there is no problem with not drinking, but people who basically restrict themselves by saying "I don't do this and that because I am prohibited to them by my religion" just tick me off. Religion is a major impediment for the development of humanity. Yeah, where would the human race BE without pork and beer?? We'd be no better than monkeys

But I am extremely pleased that the younger generation of people really start to disregard religion or at least don't practice it. I am also happy that the enlightened lifestyle that the western world leads, has basically become the lifestyle that everyone has to lead in order to be successful in this world. Therefore, religion will soon die out just like all the other antiquities of humanity that have been shed because they haven't shown any sign of practicability.Religion isn't dying out lol

And I'm agnostic too, but I hate it when stupid people try to act smart.

ubernathan · Post #68 » by **ubernathan** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:16 pm

DJ Sueko wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And I'm agnostic too, but I hate it when stupid people try to act smart.

Agnosticism is a false term, you are an atheist. Even though you believe in the possibility of god, you do not believe in god and a lack of a belief in god makes you an atheist.

CatNation · Post #69 » by **CatNation** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:28 pm

Post #70 » by **Flash3** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:56 pm

Mr. Savage wrote:
I think it is narrow minded that someone leads their life based on what a religion tells him to do and what not.

Guess what ? This is 2008 and dogmatically modelling your life after writings that are over a 1000 years old is not necessary anymore.

Whatever religion is to you, so be it. -- I respect your views, as you seemingly do mine. -- But, your "analysis" is narrow minded; criticizing why one should or shouldn't follow religion?

But, if one's following something because he/she heavily believes in it and everything surrounding it, then that is his/her choice and we follow what's being told to/for us because they are reasons behind doing and not doing certain things.

Drinking is one of them in my faith, and something I'm not permitted to do, and I'll abide by it till I leave this earth. -- They are good reasons for it, as they are for everything in life.

I don't despise religion at all. I actually think religions nowadays still have a lot of practical things to offer. But on the other hand they also provide a lot stuff that nowadays is just utter Bull****. A lot of BS that does not have any practical value.

You're generalizing religion to vaguely, because everyone that does follow a faith has a very good reason behind it, and use it in their everyday lives; from getting up in the morning all the way to coming back from work or whatever you want to think of. -- Yes, they are some things that don't make sense, but I wouldn't say that it's BS or anything like that. -- You have to understand what's being said and then go on from there.

Imagine if we'd still live in a world dictated by stupid religious based rules like this one. That would be one terrible world.

Dubai and the UAE is in essence, in a way, following Islamic Law (Shariah) IISC. And, they're one of the most successful places in the world! -- You consider that backwards, terrible and stupid? :roll:

Same with the people that don't drink or don't eat pork.
There is just no practical reason not to drink or eat pork.

YES, there is! -- Look up the reasons before making false claims; it's easily accessible. -- Scientific research says otherwise, specfically about the consumption of pork based products.

Post #71 » by **Flash3** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:48 pm

ubernathan wrote:Shut up you big babies, NBA players don't have to be good role models and if you think otherwise you're either naive or you've got Down's syndrome. They're job is to play basketball, nothing more and nothing less, unless stipulated in their contract. Big deal, he drinks and drives. Your mom drank while she was pregnant with you, why don't you go complain at her. While you're at it, why don't you pansies get a gun and blow yourselves away, you can give your mother the abortion she couldn't afford all those years ago. Drunk driving is cool as hell. All you guys mad at Stack, I hope him and Melo run down your kids in a land rover while they chug on hennessey.

Did someone rub you the wrong way or something?