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Celtic Starters 89, Bench 8 - Loss Explained

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Celtic Starters 89, Bench 8 - Loss Explained 

Post#1 » by Jammer » Fri May 23, 2008 3:54 am

There you have it.

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Kevin 41 min, 24 pts. (11-19), 13 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 TO
Paul 46 min, 26 pts. (9-16), 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 TO
Ray 29 min, 25 pts. (9-16), 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 TO, 2 steals
Rajon 41 min, 10 pts. (2-9), 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 2 TO, 3 steals
Perk 25 min 4 pts. (1-1), 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 TO

Starters 184.5 min, 89 pts. (32-61 FG), 21-22 FT, 34 rebounds, 17 assists, 10 TO's, 5 steals

Rest of Team: 55.5 minutes, 7 pts. (3-11 FG), 1-4 FT, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 TO's

No bench tonight. Not even on the damn boards. It's that simple.

I would have given Tony a crack during the 19 minutes Ray was out.
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Post#2 » by rambo_ortega » Fri May 23, 2008 4:01 am

the pistons had a good rotation that stopped our bench from contributing. it's alright though, i think we'll get the win in game 3.
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Post#3 » by Cyclical » Fri May 23, 2008 6:45 am

I don't think that explains the loss. We put enough points on the board regardless of who was producing them. The problem was on the defensive end -- we just cannot let a team score 103 points on us.
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Post#4 » by Jammer » Fri May 23, 2008 10:58 am

Cyclical wrote:I don't think that explains the loss. We put enough points on the board regardless of who was producing them. The problem was on the defensive end -- we just cannot let a team score 103 points on us.


Although the Celts usually have no trouble scoring 100 to 101 points per game,
this is the playoffs. Offensive production is a premium.

Detroit as a team was on.

Although your comment about not allowing opponents to crack 100 points is true,
that doesn't hold against great teams that are "on."

My "simpleton analysis" stands.

The starting lineup as a group was great, with 3 lulls.

1) When Detroit closed the 8 pt. lead in the 1Q
2) When Detroit opened up their big 2Q lead
3) When Detroit re-took the lead in the 3Q after the Celts closed a 7 pt. deficit,
went up by 4, and ended up down 11 early in Q4.

All of that can be traced to the lack of support from the bench.

Garnett & Pierce were the only 2 steady forces, plus Ray in the 2nd half.

Normally this team gets some jumpers and rebounds from Posey, House, and Powe.
If you take away PJ Brown's 4 points and 2 rebounds,
the bench production is a dismal 3 points and 3 rebounds in 36 minutes.

That's where the game was lost.

Tony Allen, Posey and House were all off.

I would have given Sam a crack when House wasn't holding up well to Detroit's pressure in the first half. There was also a chance to see what Sam could do when Detroit had that late 3rd quarter surge.

The bench also was 1-4 from the free throw line, but their lack of rebounding support resulted in a lack of 2nd chance points for the Celts from the bench and not stopping Detroit on the offensive glass.
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Post#5 » by bru87tr » Fri May 23, 2008 11:00 am

prob was defense and rondo and bench missing shots.
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Post#6 » by Tricky Ricky » Fri May 23, 2008 12:10 pm

I wouldve liked Cassell in for a little tonight, he usually plays decent at home and House wasnt giving anything
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Post#7 » by SuigintouEV » Fri May 23, 2008 5:23 pm

Ray 29 min


There's the real reason. It's one thing to manage someone's minutes especially with foul trouble but the timing was bad, it forced lineups like

Perk
TA
Pierce
KG
Rondo

IOW 2 vs 5 offense
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Post#8 » by Red2 » Fri May 23, 2008 5:30 pm

defense sucked and the bench sucked. I think last night was a game where our shot at winning was if we hit a bunch of 3's in the 4th. we weren't stopping them at all. If ray hits that 3 when we made our first comeback in the 4th and we get the lead then detroit calls time and we have a different game. Other than that run at the start of the 3rd period we were never able to stop them last night
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