Zach Randolph trade idea

NYKH20 · Post #1 » by **NYKH20** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:59 pm

Would you guys do Zach for Wally, number 19, and Damon Jones or Pavlovic.

Or Zach Randolph, Jared Jeffries, and Mardy Collins for Ben Wallace, Wally, Damon Jones or Pavlovic, and number 19.

What would you guys give up.

heathmalc · Post #2 » by **heathmalc** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:08 pm

Not a chance in hell.

The ONLY way you could convince us to take Zach is if you gave us YOUR 1st round pick, and Took Wallace. Otherwise... You keep him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYKH20 · Post #3 » by **NYKH20** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:09 pm

Why would we give you a 20 and 10 guy plus the 6th pick for someone who can't even tie his own shoes anymore.

Subliminal Criminal · Post #4 » by **Subliminal Criminal** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:13 pm

Any deal involving Zach Randolph to Cleveland probably has to involve the sixth overall pick. I think a pick swap could work, but I don't think the Cavs are going to take on Randolph's attitude problems without getting an amazing bargain in return.

Post #5 » by **Rise Against** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:19 pm

Can we stop bringing up trade ideas with the Knicks? This is getting obnoxious.

Hydroponic3385 · Post #6 » by **Hydroponic3385** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:58 pm

NYKH20 wrote:Why would we give you a 20 and 10 guy plus the 6th pick for someone who can't even tie his own shoes anymore.

Because your 20 and 10 guy is NOT a winner and is not a good fit for any organization.

NYKH20 · Post #7 » by **NYKH20** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:33 pm

Hydroponic3385 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Because your 20 and 10 guy is NOT a winner and is not a good fit for any organization.

Because your "role players" came and helped LeBron in the playoffs right.

heathmalc · Post #8 » by **heathmalc** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:41 pm

Well, our role players may not have won game #7 in Boston..... but at-least they were there! Zach is a LOSER, and a locker-room cancer... you know it, or else you wouldn't be trying to pawn him off on us a year after signing him.

BUT... since you think he is worth so much, why don't you keep him, and build your next dynasty around him???? :rofl:

NYKH20 · Post #9 » by **NYKH20** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:45 pm

heathmalc wrote:Well, our role players may not have won game #7 in Boston..... but at-least they were there! Zach is a LOSER, and a locker-room cancer... you know it, or else you wouldn't be trying to pawn him off on us a year after signing him.

BUT... since you think he is worth so much, why don't you keep him, and build your next dynasty around him????

So how much is your LeBron James jersey going to be worth when he's playing for the Knicks in 2010.

Hydroponic3385 · Post #10 » by **Hydroponic3385** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:08 pm

NYKH20 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So how much is your LeBron James jersey going to be worth when he's playing for the Knicks in 2010.

Dude, just shut up and stop trolling on these boards. All you Knicks fans ever do is talk about Lebron in 2010. 1) that's 2 years away 2) it's not happening. He's very likely remaining a Cav for his career, slight possibility of being a Net, and no chance in hell he'll be playing for the Knicks. You can keep your ZBo (a guy who led the Knicks to losing 10 more games this year, and resulted in Portland winning 9 more just by getting rid of him).

tarheelsncavs · Post #11 » by **tarheelsncavs** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:09 pm

what an obnoxious thread...I say Jason Kidd to the Knicks for Zach and they swap picks.

Gordon Bombay · Post #12 » by **Gordon Bombay** » Sat May 24, 2008 7:51 pm

i think we need to sticky that "NO KNICKS THREAD" that L&H made a couple of years ago...these stupid knick trades are getting ridiculous

NYKH20 · Post #13 » by **NYKH20** » Sat May 24, 2008 8:09 pm

Gordon Bombay wrote:i think we need to sticky that "NO KNICKS THREAD" that L&H made a couple of years ago...these stupid knick trades are getting ridiculous

Not as ridiculous as being a Browns fan.

cavsfan_osiris · Post #14 » by **cavsfan_osiris** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:00 pm

I'm not sure why Cavs fans are so insulted by the prospect of Zach Randolph. Yes this guy's trade proposal is ridiculous, but the thought of Zach Randolph should not be.

There are other players I would want instead of Zach Randolph. If the Cavs can't get those others then IMO they would not be doing their job in the front office if they didn't at least explore the possibility.

I'm not sure if there is a trade that makes sense though. The Cavs aren't going to make a trade with the Knicks that helps them acquire LeBron as a free agent. Because of that situation the Cavs would have to get a completely lopsided deal to think about Zach. Acquiring him would add serious payroll down the road and help the Knicks eliminate payroll.

* The Knicks would have to offer Cleveland a future pick
* They would have to without question take Ben Wallace
* There is no way in hell they would get an expiring contract in return. The Cavs would rather just let that contract expire than trade it to the Knicks of all teams.

gflem · Post #15 » by **gflem** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:28 pm

NYKH20 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not as ridiculous as being a Browns fan.

I think the 20 in his name equals his IQ. So the NJ Giants win a super bowl and suddenly he can brag. whatever, this is a BBall site, and last I checked the knicks have been a laughing stock while having the highest salary in league history.

Go back to your hole and enjoy another year of knick Bball.

NYKH20 · Post #16 » by **NYKH20** » Sun May 25, 2008 1:54 am

gflem wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think the 20 in his name equals his IQ. So the NJ Giants win a super bowl and suddenly he can brag. whatever, this is a BBall site, and last I checked the knicks have been a laughing stock while having the highest salary in league history.

Go back to your hole and enjoy another year of knick Bball.

NYKH20= Allan Houston and I'm not a Giants fan guy.

This is a warning for both trolling and namecalling. We'll put those towards your next suspension.

Subliminal Criminal · Post #17 » by **Subliminal Criminal** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:17 am

NYKH20 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So how much is your LeBron James jersey going to be worth when he's playing for the Knicks in 2010.

I assume it will probably be worth about the same. Why? Because the Knicks have no chance at landing LeBron James as long as they are stuck in the salary cap situation they are in at the moment.

rjgraca · Post #18 » by **rjgraca** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:04 pm

It doesn't make sense for the CAVs to help the Knicks get under the cap for 2010 without receiving a real premium. Most Knick fans agree that Randolph is a black hole on offense and doesn't play much defense which isn't a real good match with the CAVs.

Randolph's character is so risky that the only way he can be moved for expiring only, adding Lee or swaping 1st round draft picks with another team -- no team is going to help the Knicks out of the goodness of their heart allowing them to get under the salary cap by 2010 and it certainly wouldn't be the CAVs unless the got to at least flip 1st round draft picks in the process -- FYI, Isiah Thomas does not work for the CAVs. I am not a Randolph fan and I am not in favor of him joining the CAVs.

Benedict_Boozer · Post #19 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:17 pm

The Knicks freeing cap space isn't gonna be enough to land Lebron anyways. He isn't gonna join a crap team just because it's in NY.

If it's no a championship caliber squad he isn't going there regardless IMO

L&H_05 · Post #20 » by **L&H_05** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:26 pm

cavsfan_osiris wrote:I'm not sure why Cavs fans are so insulted by the prospect of Zach Randolph. Yes this guy's trade proposal is ridiculous, but the thought of Zach Randolph should not be.

Maybe if the guy was Rasheed Wallace or something, but the fact of the matter is Zach Randolph is a terrible fit..

He can't guard the post... He can't pass out of the post.. His shot selection is awful... He doesn't hustle... His overall basketball IQ is extremely poor and yet you suggest the thought of him is not ridiculous...

He's a decent player on a bad team and that's all he'll ever be...