What kind of player is Jerryd Bayless?

Whiteman · Post #1 » by **Whiteman** » Sun May 25, 2008 1:12 pm

I've never seen Bayless play, but I've been wondering about him. He is described as a scoring guard: he's not a real playmaker, yet he lacks size to play SG (6'3" with a 6'3" wingspan apparently). Sounds like a typical tweener, the kind of player everyone wants on their team as a 6th man. Yet espn, nbadraft.net and DX all have him going 4th.

What kind of role would he play in the NBA? Which player is he similar to? A rich man's Mo Williams, or Leandro Barbosa with better defense, or a more team oriented AI?

AnSweR07 · Post #2 » by **AnSweR07** » Sun May 25, 2008 1:52 pm

Smooth and explosive at same time...Very intelligent and crafty player. Can pick apart defenses using his athleticism and Bball IQ. HIs pull up jump shot is his bread and butter. I think if he refines his ball handling il more hes gonna be absollutely lethal on the offensive end. The way he plays reminds a lil of Ray Allen. Downside of him..is his lack of wingspan. Needs to better improve his shot selection, but I think thats partly b/c he feels he can't be guarded. He has some playmaking abilty from what I'v seen of him, but its not where he can play full time at pg. More a combo guard IMO. I project him at the Gilbert Arenas level in the league.

Post #3 » by **gswhoops** » Sun May 25, 2008 2:48 pm

From what I've seen he's like a poor man's Monta Ellis, which is a big compliment coming from a Warriors fan.

He's undersized to play the SG but doesn't quite have all the skills to play PG, which he could develop in time. He's lightning quick and can get to the rim at will and good midrange game.

GSW2K4 · Post #4 » by **GSW2K4** » Sun May 25, 2008 4:05 pm

I'm going with a comparison to Devin Harris.

He has playmaking skills, has the potential to develop, but isn't quite there yet (...and really, neither is Harris in my opinion).

JMillott · Post #5 » by **JMillott** » Sun May 25, 2008 4:08 pm

He reminds me of Chauncey Billups coming out of college and I think he'll have a very good NBA career but just as with Chauncey he is going to need some time to figure out the PG position at the NBA level.

Now i'm not saying he'll be 24/25 when he figures it out like it took Chauncey Billups to do. I think had Billups been healthy and not been moved from team to team he'd have figured it out around age 22/23.

I think the Sonics would be the ideal landing place for Jared Bayless if they trade Luke Ridnour and let him back up Earl Watson until he can actually win the position from him instead of having it handed to him.

takin'over · Post #6 » by **takin'over** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:23 pm

I think the Sonics would be the ideal landing place for Jared Bayless if they trade Luke Ridnour and let him back up Earl Watson until he can actually win the position from him instead of having it handed to him.

Jerryd Bayless was and is already a better offensive player than Earl Watson can even dream about and will probably beat him out for the starting job anyway. Seattle has zero chance of making the playoffs unless Bayless and Durant become Jordan-esque and establishing them as a future All-Star 1-2 combo is the best thing they could do.

LPKingsFan · Post #7 » by **LPKingsFan** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:45 pm

gswhoops wrote:He's undersized to play the SG but doesn't quite have all the skills to play PG, which he could develop in time. He's lightning quick and can get to the rim at will and good midrange game.

Not only to the rim at will, but also very adept at drawing the foul and getting to the line. Definitely can create for himself, the question is if he can do the same for his teammates on a consistent basis.

deeney0 · Post #8 » by **deeney0** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:56 pm

GSW2K4 wrote:I'm going with a comparison to Devin Harris.

Maybe on offense. Bayless is nowhere near Devin on D.

Butter · Post #9 » by **Butter** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:57 am

I'd love to see Bayless teamed with Brandon Roy in Portland. It seems like his perimeter shooting and ability to get to the rim, combined with Roy's ball handling and passing skills would make a great combo out of the gate.

And eventually, as Bayless became a better PG, it'd be an amazing combo...

longfellow44 · Post #10 » by **longfellow44** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:00 am

Mike Bibby- with less 3pt ability.

FutureKnicksGM · Post #11 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:17 am

I think he is a scoring point more so than a combo. He will never be a pure point, but hopefully could develop a good balance between scoring and passing. He could be a Tony Parker type player.

i<3basketball · Post #12 » by **i<3basketball** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:30 pm

Monta Ellis 2.0 Both are 6'3", both are very athletic, both better scorers than distributors. They are very smilar right down to their shrimpy arms. Ellis' wingspan was 6' 2.75" at predraft camp and if I recall correctly Bayless' wingspan measured out at 6'3" at the Nike Hoops Summit.

BULLS333 · Post #13 » by **BULLS333** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:09 pm

i go to arizona and bayless could be amazing at times , but towards the end of the season teams figured him out he can not go left at ALLLL. HE WAS NOT READY TO leave arizona yet trust me . needs to work on passing and left

SmushedPennies · Post #14 » by **SmushedPennies** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:33 pm

gswhoops wrote:From what I've seen he's like a poor man's Monta Ellis, which is a big compliment coming from a Warriors fan.

By all accounts Bayless is a RICH man's Monta Ellis, considering they're the same size, have the same athletic ability, and Bayless not only HAS a jump shot, but a very reliable one.

Post #15 » by **gswhoops** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:32 pm

SmushedPennies wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

By all accounts Bayless is a RICH man's Monta Ellis, considering they're the same size, have the same athletic ability, and Bayless not only HAS a jump shot, but a very reliable one.

Did you stop watching Ellis in 2005? Ellis has an excellent midrange jump shot.

SmushedPennies · Post #16 » by **SmushedPennies** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:47 pm

He does, I saw it in person this year. However, how was his jumpshot his freshmen year in college? Surely he didn't have NBA three-point range like Bayless does now. My point is, Bayless is already a better shooter than Ellis.

Nirvana · Post #17 » by **Nirvana** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:09 pm

Everyone is comparing him to people who can't shoot... which doesn't make sense. I look at him as a more dynamic and athletic Gilbert Arenas.

girlygirl · Post #18 » by **girlygirl** » Wed May 28, 2008 4:28 pm

Very athletic explosive combo guard who can get to the rim with ease and has a decent perimeter shot. NOT a true PG/playmaker -- tends to be very turnover-prone at times and isn't real comfortable having to run an offense, although iproved a little bit in this area as season went along. Has been descried by some scouts as a "me first" guy who doesn't make his teammates any better. But very very talented as a scorer.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #19 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm

Nirvana wrote:Everyone is comparing him to people who can't shoot... which doesn't make sense. I look at him as a more dynamic and athletic Gilbert Arenas.

Wow no way is he a more dynamic or athletic Arenas if he was he would be the number 1 pick in the draft. Arenas is probably the most athletic PG in the NBA and is the fastest player in the NBA with the ball in his hand. He also is one of the best shooters in the NBA and a legit 6-4 212 lb's big enough to play the SG.

Bayless is a poor mans Monte Ellis. An undersized SG.

richboy · Post #20 » by **richboy** » Wed May 28, 2008 10:09 pm

Why was Arenas a second round pick then.