More bad BASG news

[tbhawksfan]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... tml?page=1

Cheap f'ers. I'd rather have kept BK.

[mattlanta]

Well I don't see too much bad in Grant. He was one of the most promising GMs when he was here in Atlanta, and I would welcome him back. Just because BK made bad draft choices during his time here doesn't mean Grant will do the same. Ofcourse, he can draft busts too but what GMs can't? As for the cheap route, I'm not so sure about the money numbers, but my guess is maybe they're just trying to save up money so they can sign Josh Smith? But like I said, I'm no expert in that kind of talk so...

[HoopsGuru25]

It's only logical since whoever is hired will be GM by title only. Gearon is the new GM. Chris Grant is a yes man who is desperate enough to take this horrible job. I can see why Lindsey and Petrie "withdrew" their names from consideration. Who would take a job where they are the lowest paid in the league? This will be an even bigger joke if Woody comes back.

[HMFFL]

Remember the ASG still has to retain the Joshes. It's not like the ASG will profit off empty seats so us fans need to come out and show our support if we expect the ASG to really dig deep into the piggy bank.

[raleigh]

Remember the ASG still has to retain the Joshes. It's not like the ASG will profit off empty seats so us fans need to come out and show our support if we expect the ASG to really dig deep into the piggy bank.

They're already raising prices.

If the Grant hire is really to save $$$, I'm going to be pissed. If they couldn't afford to pay the Joshes, they shouldn't have approved the Bibby trade.

This is a HUGE summer for the Hawks, and if this article is true, they're off to a poor start.

[evildallas]

I don't see the price of the GM to be an indicator of other expenditures. If you are hiring a guy like Grant giving him a promotion to a higher position that he's ever had before you get him at a discount. If he has success he negotiates a bigger deal. None of the candidates I saw mentioned as remaining candidates were high dollar. To me it would be more telling if they had to break open the bank just to hire someone of Grant's experience level. That would indicate that the job was even more undesirable.

[HMFFL]

Remember the ASG still has to retain the Joshes. It's not like the ASG will profit off empty seats so us fans need to come out and show our support if we expect the ASG to really dig deep into the piggy bank.

They're already raising prices.

If the Grant hire is really to save $$$, I'm going to be pissed. If they couldn't afford to pay the Joshes, they shouldn't have approved the Bibby trade.

This is a HUGE summer for the Hawks, and if this article is true, they're off to a poor start.

While you may look at it as a huge summer, the ASG may just be content with the current state of the team, and might not plan on making many moves. Retain the Joshes, go cheap with an unproven GM that has ties to the Hawks organization, and pray the team can play .500 basketball to make another run at the playoffs. The ASG needs to remember the Atlanta fans are far from being dumb and they still need to gain the respect of the city. I suppose they plan on living off the Boston series.

[tbhawksfan]

Look at the TV deal revenues. Look at the attendance profits. Look at the subsidized infra-structure that the teams recieve and tell me they can't afford to run a competitive team.

I saw an article talking about a teams value over the last ten years (I think it was the Hawks). According to the article the teams value doubled in ten years.

So to all the suckers that feel bad for the ASG and that they have to pay the Josh's and a lame GM and a lame coach, get a friggin life.

Belive me, there is money in major league sports.

[raleigh]

So to all the suckers that feel bad for the ASG and that they have to pay the Josh's and a lame GM and a lame coach, get a friggin life.

I was able to handle this approach better a few years ago because I knew a time would come for some riskier decision to be made.

I never expected them to "punt."

[HMFFL]

Look at the TV deal revenues. Look at the attendance profits. Look at the subsidized infra-structure that the teams recieve and tell me they can't afford to run a competitive team.

I saw an article talking about a teams value over the last ten years (I think it was the Hawks). According to the article the teams value doubled in ten years.

So to all the suckers that feel bad for the ASG and that they have to pay the Josh's and a lame GM and a lame coach, get a friggin life.

Belive me, there is money in major league sports.

I'd really like to see the article or some numbers that break down the profits.

Acquiring Mike Bibby was an investment that I needed to see due to his contract. I just don't believe the ASG has money flowing out of their pockets right now. While the teams value will only increase you must remember they are having to afford two franchises.

When it comes to the attendance, I saw plenty of empty seats, and only a handful of games sold out. At times some of the food areas didn't even open and that even goes for some of the stores located inside the arena. That's not a good sign for an organization that's making money. Obviously this team will make money off the shared revenue but overall it doesn't mean they are smiling to the bank every time the NBA cuts them a check due to how things are locally.

[tontoz]

Remember the ASG still has to retain the Joshes. It's not like the ASG will profit off empty seats so us fans need to come out and show our support if we expect the ASG to really dig deep into the piggy bank.

they don't have to do any such thing.

They have $51 million committed for next season's salaries before signing the Joshs. If they sign Andersen and resign the Joshs that will put them in luxury tax land with only 9 players on the roster.

[HMFFL]

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they don't have to do any such thing.

They have $51 million committed for next season's salaries before signing the Joshs. If they sign Andersen and resign the Joshs that will put them in luxury tax land with only 9 players on the roster.

I expected you to respond considering your not even a Josh Childress fan. I just expect both to be Hawks next season. I'm open to moving one of the two or both for the right trade, but for the time being, I suppose Josh Childress is the one that has a better chance of not being here next season.

[tontoz]

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I expected you to respond considering your not even a Josh Childress fan. I just expect both to be Hawks next season. I'm open to moving one of the two or both for the right trade, but for the time being, I suppose Josh Childress is the one that has a better chance of not being here next season.

The numbers don't lie. The ASG isn't going to pay the luxury tax on a losing team. If they really are going to sign Andersen and resign Smith, that will be roughly $66 million for 8 players.

How can they resign Childress and fill out the rest of the roster without getting nailed by the luxury tax?

Bottom line is that when you draft 763 forwards some of them will have to be shipped out to balance the roster.

[HMFFL]

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The numbers don't lie. The ASG isn't going to pay the luxury tax on a losing team. If they really are going to sign Andersen and resign Smith, that will be roughly $66 million for 8 players.

How can they resign Childress and fill out the rest of the roster without getting nailed by the luxury tax?

Bottom line is that when you draft 763 forwards some of them will have to be shipped out to balance the roster.

and I'm perfectly fine with that. We need changes if we want to continue to heads towards the right direction. I'm not saying we must have Josh Childress back, but we can't allow him to just walk, so a SNT will be necessary if we want to continue to be a contender.

[tontoz]

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and I'm perfectly fine with that. We need changes if we want to continue to heads towards the right direction. I'm not saying we must have Josh Childress back, but we can't allow him to just walk, so a SNT will be necessary if we want to continue to be a contender.

Why would a team trade with us when they can sign him for the MLE?

[HMFFL]

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Why would a team trade with us when they can sign him for the MLE?

You make a valid point. However, are you not going to have any hard feelings towards the ASG if Josh Childress walks for free? I'd personally be extremely upset. Maybe I should stay away from asking you this due to your detachment towards Josh anyway.

[tontoz]

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You make a valid point. However, are you not going to have any hard feelings towards the ASG if Josh Childress walks for free? I'd personally be extremely upset. Maybe I should stay away from asking you this due to your detachment towards Josh anyway.

Hard feelings towards the ASG? I think they are incompetent boobs. It would be hard for my opinion of them to get much lower than it already is.

That said they did buy the team with their own money. They currently own 70% of the team and are paying 100% of the expenses plus their own legal bills. They face an expensive buyout of Belkin assuming they actually win.

It isn't realistic to think they would pay the luxury tax given their circumstances.

[ATLfan]

Seeing Ted Turner at the playoff games made me wonder if he is going to help or join the ASG.

[HoopsGuru25]

Seeing Ted Turner at the playoff games made me wonder if he is going to help or join the ASG.

Isn't his son apart of the ASG?

[LL Cool Scott]

^ Yes, he is. We're stuck with the ASG for the the foreseeable future. Mike "I think Billy Knight is an absolute genius" Gearon is going to become one of those Jerry Jones owner/GM types and that makes me want to cry. Besides Sterling in LA, we have the worst owners in all of professional sports. I pray that Dark Lord Belkin somehow wins this lawsuit and ends this disastrous ownership by committee approach.