Mo Cheeks to lobby for Z-Bo?

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If Frye and the #13 are offered I would jump on that deal. [quote]

Me too.

And, BTW, still no interest in Randolph.

[Fire BK]

I agree with you guys...

I'm getting the impression Miller is just going to walk next summer for Western pastures... Why wait until the trade deadline to ship him for some value? The offers will probably be inferior, as teams will be scared-off by a rent-a-player for a half year.

Andre Miller + Willie Green

for

#13, Frye, Jack, LaFrentz

This is probably the best deal we can get. It works for both teams. Leave Z-Bo in NY... Perhaps deal Iggy in a separate move... But this trade makes perfect sense for both teams IMO. Let's get it done.

[bstein14]

Honestly, I could see a 3 way in which...

NY gets:
Lafrentz + Willie + #13

Portland gets:
Dre Miller + #16

Philly gets:
Zach, Frye, Jack, + #6

[corwin]

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The Sixers are going to suck without Miller unless they replace him with a PG that can run a team. That's just basketball. But we have to make sure that we improve the talent base with his expiring contract before he walks away and the Sixers get nothing for him and ultimately less value from the Iverson trade. If Frye and the #13 are offered I would jump on that deal. Frye can be an NBA starter and the 13th pick can turn out to be an NBA starter. What more can you ask for such a veteran player in the last year of his contract? A starter in a position of need and a lottery pick is a good deal.

I value #13 but don't care much for Frye who I see duplicating what we have in Jason Smith. He's also finishing his RC & will want to be paid to stay. With Jack, I see Jack as a combo guard who would cut into Lou William's time & I think Williams should be given a chance to show that he can/can't play the point so I'm not real interested in Jack. He would have to have a decent veteran behind him & that is where Blake comes in. I see what you are saying about assets though & don't disagree with you on that. I'd just rather see Blake instead of Jack and Outlaw or Webster in place of Frye. Plus, I'm sort of tired of proposals sending Raef as the main piece for Miller as if Miller is simply an expiring like Raef.

[Fire BK]

Honestly, I could see a 3 way in which...

NY gets:
Lafrentz + Willie + #13

Portland gets:
Dre Miller + #16

Philly gets:
Zach, Frye, Jack, + #6

Hahaaa! no thx.

[SendEm]

corwin, Frye is much better and longer than Jason Smith. Smith is barely a NBA player...Yes they both shoot jump shots but so does McDyess and Dirk. It's a major improvement at the PF position for us.
Long term Frye could work out wonderfully next to Thad considering Thad's excellent low post skills and Frye's automatic mid range jump shot.

[chrice]

Honestly, I could see a 3 way in which...

NY gets:
Lafrentz + Willie + #13

Portland gets:
Dre Miller + #16

Philly gets:
Brand, Frye, Jack, + #6

LA gets:
Randolph

That way we trade for Randolph without actually receiving Randolph.

[phiphan]

Honestly, I could see a 3 way in which...

NY gets:
Lafrentz + Willie + #13

Portland gets:
Dre Miller + #16

Philly gets:
Zach, Frye, Jack, + #6

I'd do that if I were sure that either Bayless or Mayo would be available at 6 (particularly Bayless).

PG: Bayless
SG: Andre Iguodala
SF: Thad Young
PF: Z-Bo
C: Dalembert

Plus you're not losing any cap space, so you could still make a big FA offer. That's a nice young team. Say what you want about Z-Bo -- he's still netting more than his opponent -- he's +4.2 in fact.

[freshie2]

Does Bayless project to a PG in the NBA? The times I saw him play, he looked more like a scorer than a true PG. Great talent, I just don't know if he projects to the point in the NBA.

Can't see the Sixers getting that high, but if they get to 6, they can land one of Bayless, Lopez, Mayo, Randolph...not too bad. If Gallinari is long/tough enough to play the PF spot, he would have to be considered there as well. I don't think he projects in that direction, but with Thad's inside game, a skilled PF like Gallinari may be a good match.

[corwin]

corwin, Frye is much better and longer than Jason Smith. Smith is barely a NBA player...Yes they both shoot jump shots but so does McDyess and Dirk. It's a major improvement at the PF position for us.
Long term Frye could work out wonderfully next to Thad considering Thad's excellent low post skills and Frye's automatic mid range jump shot.

Not sure I agree with you there about Smith, since Smith was good enough to get on the court as a rookie with Mo. Thats no small thing. Let's see what he does over the summer. I think he'll end up as a decent pick-n-pop player who isn't afraid to mix it up inside. I also suspect he'll work on his low post game so that he can play some back-up center. Frye perhaps gets a bad rap as being soft. Who really knows though? Let's see how willing Portland is about moving him. That should give us some clue. I would discount the trade from NY. He wasn't what the Knicks were expecting from a #8 pick but then again, it was Isiah putting together a fantasy league team.

[SouthJersey]

Considering Evans was our starter for most of the year, Mo didnt reall have many opions at PF. Smith might be a decent player down the road, but he may not. Those T-Rex arms scare the **** out of me.

[SouthJersey]

BTW, does Randolph project to a PF? I've heard comparisons to Bosh. I would take him at 6 if this is so.

[SendEm]

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Not sure I agree with you there about Smith, since Smith was good enough to get on the court as a rookie with Mo. Thats no small thing. Let's see what he does over the summer. I think he'll end up as a decent pick-n-pop player who isn't afraid to mix it up inside. I also suspect he'll work on his low post game so that he can play some back-up center. Frye perhaps gets a bad rap as being soft. Who really knows though? Let's see how willing Portland is about moving him. That should give us some clue. I would discount the trade from NY. He wasn't what the Knicks were expecting from a #8 pick but then again, it was Isiah putting together a fantasy league team.

I like your post but Jason Smith plays basketball like no one has ever told him that he has short arms and a slow release. He HAS to be the shortest playing 7'0" in the history of the world. Unless he plans to reinvent himself he has realized his ceiling. He can refine things, improve percentages and production naturally as he becomes more experienced, but the results will be along the lines of what we have already seen, a player that ALWAYS gets outplayed by his opponent. Jason just simply doesn't release the ball fast enough or high enough for a NBA player. I have seen players block his midrange jump shot while standing 3-4 feet away from him. Being able to block his shot from such a distance away completely nullifies Jason's top notch first step and ball handling ability because a defender can just anticipate his patented slow release & low trajectory and pluck that shot out of the air. Jason's heart is in the right place. I like that he tries to dunk everything WITH TWO HANDS and challenges dunkers but that's not going to work out in the NBA for him and his midget arms. Jason's game will go in the toilet once he loses some of his vertical leap. His 38" vertical is the ONLY thing that allows him to play like a 6'9"ish player. Once that goes Jason becomes a 6'7" center/pf with the height of a 7'0" player.

Jason Smith's combine:
" Smith is known for his skills as a big man, but flashed good athleticism at the combine. Smith ran the best lane agility time at 10.96 seconds, had a vertical of 37.5

[corwin]

Can't make his arms grow & that is the biggest negative about him. Still, he isn't really projected as anything more than a rotation player & should become an effective shooter on offense and a guy that can run the break. He also seems to get his share of blocked shots even though his arms are short (granted I didn't look up his stats on this). The thing that strikes me most about Smith is that he isn't afraid to mix it up or to take the chance on defense. He had so many marginal fouls called (rookie calls) when setting up position. I expect that will get better next year. I'd like to see him develop a spin move or maybe a hook shot when they stick him in at center. I think we'll know after another year if he's a keeper or not.