WCF: LA Lakers vs. San Antonio - Series LAL wins (4-1)

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How will this series fare the rest of the way?

Lakers will close it out in game 5
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75%
Spurs will take Game 5 but lose game 6
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Spurs will take game 5, 6, and 7
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Post#101 » by Myth_Breaker » Wed May 28, 2008 8:13 am

I'm freakin' happy with that. I've predicted Lakers in 7, but I have nothing against finishing off Spurs in 5! :-)

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Post#102 » by andrewww » Wed May 28, 2008 8:17 am

i love how the lakers got screwed by 3 calls at the end, and yet spurs fans still whine about being jobbed by the refs.

1. odom goaltend on parker .. verdict: bad call, but close
2. ginobili
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Post#103 » by Cevap » Wed May 28, 2008 8:22 am

andrewww wrote:i love how the lakers got screwed by 3 calls at the end, and yet spurs fans still whine about being jobbed by the refs.

1. odom goaltend on parker .. verdict: bad call, but close
2. ginobili
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Post#104 » by dingclancy » Wed May 28, 2008 8:23 am

We win!!!!

Look whine all you want but the Lakers did what they had to do and that is win on the road against the D-Champs
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Post#105 » by andrewww » Wed May 28, 2008 8:28 am

from someone on dime's site..

overheard comment of a non basketball fan yesterday:
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Post#106 » by The Letter V » Wed May 28, 2008 8:51 am

Anyone want to explain to me why they think Barry travelled on that last play?

I don't see it.

He catches the ball.
Pump fakes.
Lifts his pivot foot.
Innitiates his dribble just before his foot comes back down.
Gets hit by Fisher.
Gathers and shoots it.

I know there were alot of bad calls towards the end, but they don't excuse this one. It was clearly a foul.
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Post#107 » by shortodom » Wed May 28, 2008 8:57 am

The Letter V wrote:Anyone want to explain to me why they think Barry travelled on that last play?

I don't see it.

He catches the ball.
Pump fakes.
Lifts his pivot foot.
Innitiates his dribble just before his foot comes back down.

Gets hit by Fisher.
Gathers and shoots it.

I know there were alot of bad calls towards the end, but they don't excuse this one. It was clearly a foul.



he can't pick his pivot foot up before the ball hits the floor and it did, thats never gonna get called in the last play but it was a travel by the rule book
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Post#108 » by tkb » Wed May 28, 2008 9:06 am

The Letter V wrote:Anyone want to explain to me why they think Barry travelled on that last play?

I don't see it.

He catches the ball.
Pump fakes.
Lifts his pivot foot.
Innitiates his dribble just before his foot comes back down.
Gets hit by Fisher.
Gathers and shoots it.

I know there were alot of bad calls towards the end, but they don't excuse this one. It was clearly a foul.


That's the definition of a travel.
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Post#109 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed May 28, 2008 9:08 am

andrewww wrote:from someone on dime's site..

overheard comment of a non basketball fan yesterday:
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
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Post#110 » by andrewww » Wed May 28, 2008 9:19 am

shortodom wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




he can't pick his pivot foot up before the ball hits the floor and it did, thats never gonna get called in the last play but it was a travel by the rule book


exactly. it was a travel, but the refs could have called a foul on fisher jumping into barry. borderline call honestly. if barry had actually lept into fisher when fisher was in the air, then it would have been a foul, absolutely no question. as it stands though, the call could have went either way, contrary to what many ppl believe.
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Post#111 » by austinjw » Wed May 28, 2008 9:55 am

Yea I was thinkin the same thing during the game. Duncan sure does fall down a lot. I guess he's been gettin some lessons from Manu.
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Post#112 » by Jordan23Forever » Wed May 28, 2008 10:24 am

I'll tell you two things:

- Manu is terrible, and has cost SA this series.
- Duncan is petrified of Gasol inside. Pau has him on lock.
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Post#113 » by PPAW4Life » Wed May 28, 2008 11:49 am



That was a goal tend by Odom....you can see the ball changes direction after it hits the backboard first then hits Odom's hand and hits the backboard again.

Manu's 3 looks like both feet were touching the line but the ref was right there on the play and called it a 3 pointer.

Fisher's shot looks like it grazed the rim as the shot changed trajectory slightly as it was going down but none of the Lakers seemed to think it hit the rim....very close call and the refs don't have the benefits of instant replay. You'd think one of the Lakers would attempt to ask the refs if it hit the rim or not....wow.

Barry did travel but it was caused by the contact and thus foul by Fisher as he jumped into the air landing on Barry with his elbow on the back of Barry's neck/head....a foul at any other point in the game just not at the end of the game....unless you're a star which then increases your chance to get that call by 0.9 %
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Post#114 » by Serpo » Wed May 28, 2008 11:50 am

I don't think the Spurs should accept Joey Crawford ever again as referee . Just don't play when he's sheduled for Spurs games .

In general the game was terrible officiated on both sides .
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Post#115 » by JordansBulls » Wed May 28, 2008 12:02 pm

Why are people arguing over this? The Lakers won fair and square, you gotta be a professional about this.
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Post#116 » by Dr Aki » Wed May 28, 2008 12:59 pm

Serpo wrote:I don't think the Spurs should accept Joey Crawford ever again as referee . Just don't play when he's sheduled for Spurs games .

In general the game was terrible officiated on both sides .


so joey gives his best pro-spurs home-cooking impression for 47:58 of the game

but this game goes down as a howard stern conspiracy for a non-call that never get called at the end of games anyway?
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Post#117 » by Rasheeed!!! » Wed May 28, 2008 12:59 pm

goaltend, airball, travel
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Post#118 » by ropjhk » Wed May 28, 2008 1:05 pm

JordansBulls wrote:Why are people arguing over this? The Lakers won fair and square, you gotta be a professional about this.


Fans don't have to be professional about this. I think you're talking about the players, and the Spurs have been professional about this situation as far as I can tell. No complaints from the Spurs as they realize they lost the game on other missed opportunities.

As a fan though, I believe the foul should have been called. I'm all for that 'let them play' mentality late in the game, but when a players ability to get a decent shot off is impeded by the defender with what would normally be called a foul the rest of the game, then you have to blow the whistle. Barry could not even get a decent shot off.

Officiating is the one thing as a fan that I want the NBA to work on the most. It has been going downhill.
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Post#119 » by ChampionRed » Wed May 28, 2008 1:06 pm

There was no conspiracy. The Spurs didn't grab the big rebounds and the Lakers made all the big plays. As a result 3-1 Lakers. They earned all 3 wins and the Spurs should be kicking themselves right now because they had a great chance to be up 3-1.
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Post#120 » by ropjhk » Wed May 28, 2008 1:11 pm

Akiho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



so joey gives his best pro-spurs home-cooking impression for 47:58 of the game

but this game goes down as a howard stern conspiracy for a non-call that never get called at the end of games anyway?


I think you mean David Stern. As far as I know, the radio shock jock doesn't have any influence over the NBA.

But to get to the nature of your post, it's likely not that Stern is fixing the games, rather that the competency of officiating has been going down. There is so much reason to shoot down the conspiracy theories, but I don't think it's deniable that there is a lack of consistency with NBA refs. They need to be retrained in order to improve the quality of the NBA product.

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