Brook Lopez or Marc Gasol

cdcastellon1 · Post #1 » by **cdcastellon1** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:13 pm

Who is going to be best center in the next season? ( If Marc finally goes to NBA, he ends his contract this june.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRMmQQA-XNM

Marc Gasol, 7-1 C, has been MVP of the season in the best domestic profesional league outside NBA, he averaged 16 PPG 9 RPG 67% FG. 2 years ago he was a ghost compared with his actual phisical status.

PD: Marc Gasol is getting ofered 4 millon dollars deals per season by some european teams to stay in Europe.

RoyceDa59 · Post #2 » by **RoyceDa59** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:51 am

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dwight Howard.

Cammo101 · Post #3 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:11 pm

Lopez >>>> Gasol

Jack wore plaid · Post #4 » by **Jack wore plaid** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:30 pm

I think Greg Oden has a decent chance of being the best rookie center next year, but Gasol will be better than Lopez

IMHO Robin Lopez will have a better pro career than Brook Lopez because he is more versitile

Cammo101 · Post #5 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 28, 2008 5:30 pm

Jack wore plaid wrote:I think Greg Oden has a decent chance of being the best rookie center next year, but Gasol will be better than Lopez

IMHO Robin Lopez will have a better pro career than Brook Lopez because he is more versitile

No way. Brook is much better than Robin. If Lopez played overseas last year against all those soft big men on a team with actual guard play he would be seen as the 2nd coming in this draft. Gasol is not even close.

yunggunz · Post #6 » by **yunggunz** » Wed May 28, 2008 6:22 pm

I have heard conflicting stories about Gasol......some say he is projected to be better than Pau by many European scouts, and others say he wouldnt have even been drafted if he werent related to Pau.

Either way, Ill choose him over Lopez, only because Lopez isnt going to be much of a player in the NBA.

Post #7 » by **studcrackers** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:01 pm

what dont u like about brook?

i think gasol is partially getting hyped up b/c the lakers got him, the world championship helps his resume but i see brook being a very good player, a double double guy. probably not an all star but probably can be a top 5 center

Post #8 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:33 pm

yunggunz wrote:I have heard conflicting stories about Gasol......some say he is projected to be better than Pau by many European scouts, and others say he wouldnt have even been drafted if he werent related to Pau.

both reports are right form what i've read. at the time of the draft, marc gasol was seen as a pick based on name more than anything else. however, through his play, he's turned into one of the best european prospects. his accolades this season speak for themselves.

Myth_Breaker · Post #9 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:36 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No way. Brook is much better than Robin. If Lopez played overseas last year against all those soft big men on a team with actual guard play he would be seen as the 2nd coming in this draft. Gasol is not even close.

I see someone who needs some more serious work on his future ambition of becoming NBA draft guru... ;-)

Good first step here would be noticing that Spanish league's bigs are actually both more skilled and tougher than NCAA's ones.

A.J. · Post #10 » by **A.J.** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:32 pm

Lopez>Gasol and it's not even close.

chrice · Post #11 » by **chrice** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:45 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dwight Howard.

zong · Post #12 » by **zong** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:38 pm

Marc reminds me of Samuel Dalembert

Cammo101 · Post #13 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:13 am

Myth_Breaker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I see someone who needs some more serious work on his future ambition of becoming NBA draft guru... Good first step here would be noticing that Spanish league's bigs are actually both more skilled and tougher than NCAA's ones.

More skilled yes, tougher...not a chance. Soft soft soft.

j-ragg · Post #14 » by **j-ragg** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:28 am

zong wrote:Marc reminds me of Samuel Dalembert

Uh... what?

Samuel's biggest asset is his athleticism.

Gasol's biggest asset is his big ass.

Don't understand the comparison.

Red Robot · Post #15 » by **Red Robot** » Thu May 29, 2008 2:48 am

Cammo101 wrote:More skilled yes, tougher...not a chance. Soft soft soft.

I disagree. There's plenty of ex-NBAers like Marcus Haislip, Jerome Moiso, and Boniface N'Dong, Mario Kasun (and I'm sure some I'm missing) who are tougher than probably 97% of NCAA bigs. Then there are top international players like Vasquez, Splitter, and Reyes are also as physical as anybody in college. There are plenty of former NCAA stars sitting on benches over there. Lou Roe was first team all-American. None of these guys are soft.

Airness_ACB · Post #16 » by **Airness_ACB** » Thu May 29, 2008 5:27 pm

Many people in the States underrates european leagues... Marc's season has been amazing, really amazing. The ACB is a tough league, there's not joke with it, since the ACB is, no doubts, a better competition than the NCAA. If Marc was playing in the NCAA he'd have a monster season, while being the most dominating big man by far and putting a nightly 20/25-10-3-3.

IMO he's a better player than Lopez and it's not even close. Marc's not only more skilled, but also a waaaay better passer, a better overall defender and a tougher player (Marc's not the typical euro 7-footer, he's a banger, tough as a rock and enjoys physical contact).

Lopez has to improve many things before being a solid contributor in the NBA. Marc IS NBA ready, and with the logical physical improvement (just remember how Pau was when he was still in Europe...) he'll end up being a pretty good starting center in the NBA. Lopez's improvement depends on many things and it's a bit uncertain, while Marc has yet all the tools and only needs to improve physically (which is quite easy and almost a sure thing).

I'd take Marc anyday, he's an NBA player, while L

The_Believer · Post #17 » by **The_Believer** » Thu May 29, 2008 6:04 pm

So Marc Gasol went from a complete joke of a player to better than a top 5 pick? Can somebody inform me of something drastic happening?

Palmeirense · Post #18 » by **Palmeirense** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:56 pm

LOL at people saying that the bigs at ACB are soft,just lol.

Anyway,i heard great things about Marc,and he is dominating one of the toughest leagues in Europe,so i choose him.

Sammks · Post #19 » by **Sammks** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 4:44 pm

ACB ( spanish domestic league ) ---> NBA

Regular season stats

Pau Gasol - 1980 - Last ACB Season ( 2000-2001 - 20yo ) - Team Record ( 29-5 - 1st overall )

- 30 games played - 23,8mpg - 11,4ppg - 5,2rpg - 14,5*vpg

* Valoracion - Like EFF

First NBA Season ( 2001-2002 - 21yo ) - Team Record ( 23-59 )

- 82 games played - 36,7mpg - 17,6ppg - 8,9rpg

Andres Nocioni - 1979 - Last ACB Season ( 2003-2004 - 24yo ) - TR ( 28-6 - 1st overall )

- 29 GP - 30,3mpg - 16ppg - 7,6rpg - 18vpg

First NBA Season ( 2004-2005 - 25yo ) - TR ( 47-35 )

- 81 GP - 24,4mpg - 8,4ppg - 4,8rpg

Luis Scola - 1980 - Last ACB Season ( 2006-2007 - 26yo ) - TR ( 26-8 - 1st overall )

- 29 GP - 29,6mpg - 16,9ppg - 7,1rpg - 22vpg

First NBA Season ( 2007-2008 - 27yo ) - TR ( 55-27 )

- 82 GP - 24,7mpg - 10,3ppg - 6,4rpg

--- Scola 2008 ( Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr at RS ) - 51 GP - 27,7mpg - 12,1ppg - 7,2 rpg

Marc Gasol - 1985 - Last ACB Season ( 2007-2008 - 22yo ) - TR ( 21-13 - 7th overall )

- 34 GP - 33,4mpg - 16,1ppg - 8,3rpg - 27,8vpg

You can try with other ACB stars like Garbajosa, Calderon, R.Lopez...

I think, the ACB stars who play for the top ACB teams are making similar stats per 48 minutes at the NBA teams. Marc is really big and he can pass, he can block shots, can play 1vs1... Im sure, if he goes to the NBA, he is going to play the rookie ASG for sure.

First post here. Hi all and sorry for my bad english.

Post #20 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 5:28 pm

zong wrote:Marc reminds me of Samuel Dalembert

I can't think of a C who is more different to Marc Gasol than Sammy.