Blazers' 13th pick

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

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In addition to Andy or Joe Smith, or West or Wally. none of those guys is worth a mid first, so in addidtion to a player, a future first is to sweeten the pot.

I know that. And what I mentioned was a future 1st wasn't valuable to the Blazers. The #19 pick is worth more to them, unless the deal was changed. I don't see them doing Pryz + #13 for Varejao + a future 1st. They'll look somewhere else unless they can get immediate help. I mentioned Pryz + #13 for Varejao + #19 because it helps their cap, and they still get a pick this year to keep or move. Long term Varejao, Wally, West, or Joe Smith don't help them, but short term it clears up their center log jam while netting them equally valuable assets.

[SportsBoy]

As a Blazers fan, I'd love to swap 13 and 36 for 19 and Varejao. If salaries need to be matched, James Jones and Channing Frye both fit. Also, Steve Blake is within the Cavs' price range and would be a decent contributor.

Wont Happen. Cavs can get a rotation player at 19. No need to trade up unless its to get a significant player.

If the Blazers dont want the #13, they sure dont need to 33 and 36 Picks.


AV can play C/PF.
Pavs can play SG/SF

I see a AV ,Pavs for Frye, #13, and (#33 or #36) trade.

[tarheelsncavs]

The Blazers have a good solid core, they believe, nothing is for sure because they havent played together yet....Oden is a question because of his knee....Micro fracture surgery is still a high risk one although Stoudamire came out of it good....the Blazers could use another PG....but if the Blazers fan up there wanted to trade Blake...I'd take him....he's solid...handles well...makes good decisions...can hit the 3....overall smart player......I could see the Blazers getting out of this draft though....there isnt a whole lot in it...could be a lot of role players....there WILL be some steals in it somewhere....somebody is gonna get a diamond in the rough....but I dont know that there is anyone that they need in the first round....they might almost give it away.

[Benedict_Boozer]

I would do the deal the Blazer fan proposed where James Jones + Channing Frye+1st rounder were included in a deal for AV and filler.

Frye is a little soft but he can finish and shoot, and he's young. Blazers don't really need him.

James Jones is a 40% 3pt shooter, would fit here as well.

[eyejayem]

With Portland stateing they have to decide what to do with Webster and Outlaw, they said a decision has to be made this year,both are in their contract year if I am correct. I rather have Webster just because Outlaw doesnt fill a need. I know he is a SF/PF but honestly with Webster stepping up his defense and ability to be a big SG(6'7" 215), his shooting I would rather him(21-22 yrs old).

I think that trade before and substituting Frye would be great.

[AZ BLAZER]

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Wont Happen. Cavs can get a rotation player at 19. No need to trade up unless its to get a significant player.

If the Blazers dont want the #13, they sure dont need to 33 and 36 Picks.


AV can play C/PF.
Pavs can play SG/SF

I see a AV ,Pavs for Frye, #13, and (#33 or #36) trade.

Wow, all those posts by Cavs fans about why Portland would not do this or that, and then a Portland fan finally makes a proposal and then you rudely chime in to shoot it down and try to demand more picks.

Listen here smart guy, the Blazers do want the 33 and 36 picks. Those are unguaranteed contracts that are low risk high reward picks. Portland will keep them, thank you. Portland management is probably looking for a second round steal that plays like AV but makes a lot less money and does not need a lot of playing time.

As has been stated, Portland has no need for AV, and especially not Pavs. I don't care if AV can play C/PF. So can Frye. And Frye is a significantly better shooter, which is what Portland wants with Oden on the floor. Listen to Buckeye-NBAFan, he has been both inteligent and fair in his posts in this thread.

So get that rotation player at 19. Good luck.

[AZ BLAZER]

With Portland stateing they have to decide what to do with Webster and Outlaw, they said a decision has to be made this year,both are in their contract year if I am correct. I rather have Webster just because Outlaw doesnt fill a need. I know he is a SF/PF but honestly with Webster stepping up his defense and ability to be a big SG(6'7" 215), his shooting I would rather him(21-22 yrs old).

I think that trade before and substituting Frye would be great.

Sorry, but the Cavs have nothing of interest to Portland for Webster or Outlaw. I know, you have one player, but it would be absurd to mention his name, so lets not.

Portland has a player option on Outlaw after the next season. Webster will be a restricted FA this off season.

[TheOUTLAW]

There was nothing rude about expressing a view that was different from what the previous blazer fan said (and it was not nearly as rude as your last post). Point is, this boards are for people to discuss, if everyone agreed there'd be nothing that needed to be negotiated. That being said, I don't think the Cavs will move Varejao. Sure he was a bit of a mess this year but he's still the teams only relatively young big and is absolutely the teams most versatile big.

[SportsBoy]

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Wow, all those posts by Cavs fans about why Portland would not do this or that, and then a Portland fan finally makes a proposal and then you rudely chime in to shoot it down and try to demand more picks.

Listen here smart guy, the Blazers do want the 33 and 36 picks. Those are unguaranteed contracts that are low risk high reward picks. Portland will keep them, thank you. Portland management is probably looking for a second round steal that plays like AV but makes a lot less money and does not need a lot of playing time.

As has been stated, Portland has no need for AV, and especially not Pavs. I don't care if AV can play C/PF. So can Frye. And Frye is a significantly better shooter, which is what Portland wants with Oden on the floor. Listen to Buckeye-NBAFan, he has been both inteligent and fair in his posts in this thread.

So get that rotation player at 19. Good luck.

WOW...Great Post AZ

So..why again is Portland shopping the #13 Pick?
You do know that you are on a CAVALIERS BOARD...Right?

[sabi]

There's always the chance that KP likes a player that is projected to go around 19, like Rush. In that case, I could see a potential trade between us. The problem is that, given the Blazers' needs, no one from the Cavs is tempting enough to persuade our GM to trade down with you. So it would have to be a 3 team trade where the Cavs send AV to another team and we get a young talented PG or combo guard.

[eyejayem]

The funny part of this entire "which year should the pick come from" is funny. Someone or some GM or some GM with an Isiah Thomas in their ear is going to say out of the '08,'09,'10 or more. The draft pick someone will gamble on is the one to get the draft pick the year Lebron "will leave". Someone within the next two years will gamble and want the possible "lottery" pick. Because David Stern will have to pay back the Cavs for losing the best player in the league.

[Jack wore plaid]

I think it's funny some of you would want Portland to trade #13 and Przybilla for a worse pick and an equal at best player. Przybilla is one of the best defensive centers in the league, and a great locker room guy.

As for things the Blazers need it's simple. An upgrade over Outlaw or Webster, or an upgrade over Blake.

Brandon Roy dominates the ball on offense, so another guard that could stay with quicker points on defense and spread the ball with his shooting on offense would be a nice thing to have