Can you imagine LeBron James in the Laker offense?

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Post#61 » by CzBoobie » Wed May 28, 2008 6:45 pm

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Truth is Larry would still be a 20ppg player if Lebron didn't force him to be a spot up shooter.


Yeah, just look how he has lighted it up in Chicago...
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Post#62 » by C'mon Cavs » Wed May 28, 2008 7:55 pm

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Truth is Larry would still be a 20ppg player if Lebron didn't force him to be a spot up shooter.


I see...you cant refute any of my points so you desperately try to take a shot at LeBron.

Truth is, Larry Hughes shouldnt be in the NBA. Let's get some Chicago Bulls fans in here to give us their opinions of one Larry Hughes.
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Post#63 » by Rocky5000 » Wed May 28, 2008 8:30 pm

After one of the Cavs losses, LeBron was asked a question relating to the offense scheme of Cleveland.

Paraphrasing...
Reporter:It seemed like you guys kept going back to the pick and roll at the top of the key, even though it wasn't effective against the Celtic defense. Are you going to start running some plays with you off the ball?

LeBron: Well, 80% of our offense is pick and rolls, so I don't think that's going to change, I just have to do a better job of making the shots that I know I can make.

Cleveland is already a great defensive team, what they need is some sort of offensive system. They can't just let LeBron run wild and expect to win against the better defenses in the league. If LeBron was playing off the ball, like he did with Jason Kidd on Team USA. Cleveland would be a much harder team to beat. He'd have less assists, but his team would be more effective.
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Post#64 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Wed May 28, 2008 8:43 pm

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Yeah, just look how he has lighted it up in Chicago...


:lol:
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Post#65 » by A.J. » Wed May 28, 2008 8:47 pm

Texas Longhorns wrote:LeBron can't shoot, so he wouldn't fit well in the triangle.


Since when do you have to shoot?

Look at Odom.
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Post#66 » by Original Baller » Wed May 28, 2008 8:56 pm

DowJones wrote:LeBron is nothing like Pippen. LeBron would be much more of an offensive threat than Pippen ever was. If LeBron and Kobe played on the same team, LeBron would be the star. LeBron is easily the biggest star in the NBA. I honestly don't think Kobe could handle it. He couldn't.

I view Kobe as a front-runner. If he is on a great team with a great coach, he could be the best teammate in the world. However if you put him with a bad coach (Mike Brown) and a sorry team (where Z is his 2nd best player), he would implode instead of taking them as far as LeBron has done. Can anyone imagine Kobe NOT pouting and demanding a trade if he played for Cleveland?


Obviously your a LeBron stan so rational debate won't be possible but I will leave you this tidbit.

No player has EVER averaged over 7 APG in the triangle. The highest ever was Pippen in 91-92 with 7.0 APG playing point forward and Jordan's all time high was 6.3 APG in the triangle and Kobe's has been 6.0 APG.

The reason no one ever averages that many assists per game is because its an offense where no one player dominates the ball that much like LeBron does in Cleveland. Assists get distributed because many times its the second pass that leads to an open shot. So if Bron played in the triangle there would be no chance he gets over 7 apg let alone 15 or whatever crazy number you put forward.
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Post#67 » by DowJones » Wed May 28, 2008 9:18 pm

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Your views are ill conceived and lack any sort of intelligence. First lebron IDOLIZES kobe, absolutely worships the man. Anytime lebron is asked about bryant he gushes with praise about how kobe is the best. He stated it was bryant who during the olympic tryouts who taught him how to play defense. Bryant will not have any problems with lebron as long as james shows serious dedication to the game. Kobe is the master, lebron is the apprentice. And yes there will come a time when student surpasses his teacher but it is not today.

You are severely underrating lebron's mates while overrating james' ability to make those around him better. If you haven't noticed it was his teammates who overcame his poor play against boston throughout most of the series when he could only muster a poor 20-30% from the field. This team is built around lebron, some elements are there, problem is they are a little long in the tooth. It is funny how for all of lebron's greatness he really doesn't seem to make others better. Notice how many of the players that join him shoot a lot worse. larry hughes was a borderline allstar and top defender before he came to cleveland. Boozer was a good player turned all star after leaving the cavs.

Conversely, players joining bryant generally shoot a better %. Part of it is coaching, part of it is the players themselves and part of it is playing with someone like bryant. What is not deniable is the influence bryant is having on his teams psyche. They are in essence becoming like him, a bunch of assassins who enjoy slinging daggers at the enemy. It is scary to think how good this team may become in the future. Look at recent games against spurs, jazz and nuggets and how many of those games the lakers have lead wire to wire ON THE ROAD. That is the killer instinct kobe is so famous for, and he is teaching it to his mates.

There is no doubt the two can play together and thrive because they both respect each others game.


LeBron doesn't "idolize" Kobe. You are a moron if you think that is the case. If anything, it is MJ that he idolizes but LeBron is his own man now. Saying that LeBron worships Kobe is a freaking joke.
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Post#68 » by Kobay » Wed May 28, 2008 11:09 pm

This is how laker triangle works.

When kobe's around the perimeter he drives and draws defense and passes it to gasol, who then passes it to lamar for wide open lay up or dunk. If the defense does a good job at crowding the paint, kobe simply pulls up and drains the fade away. This works also when kobe's doubled at the top.

When kobe plays in the post he posts up and makes a move to the rim or draws the double while posting up and passes it out to odom who either has the option to lay it up or pass it wide open gasol if a shot blocker is there.

Then theres a pick and roll game with gasol or bynum where he basically does the CP3 lob or bounce pass for the wide open dunk.

Another form is screens set for kobe to get him wide open shots or in case the defense decides to challenge him, he passes out to wide open shooter.

Then there is kobe isolation where he does whatever he wants. Pass to the paint, score, pass out to open shooters.
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Post#69 » by SPuL » Thu May 29, 2008 12:56 am

Seems like you're forgetting the triangle limits Kobe's offense, if anything.

The season when Phil was gone & they ran an open offense Kobe averaged 35 PPG..

Lebron's game would most likely suffer even more than Kobe's in the tri, because he doesn't have the ability to hit contested jumpers like Kobe does.. & he would also have the ball in his hands alot less
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Post#70 » by Milan24 » Thu May 29, 2008 1:04 am

SPuL wrote:Seems like you're forgetting the triangle limits Kobe's offense, if anything.

The season when Phil was gone & they ran an open offense Kobe averaged 35 PPG..

Lebron's game would most likely suffer even more than Kobe's in the tri, because he doesn't have the ability to hit contested jumpers like Kobe does.. & he would also have the ball in his hands alot less

False, he averaged 27.6 the season without Philbert.
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Post#71 » by prekazi » Thu May 29, 2008 1:54 am

LakersSquad wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Truth is Larry would still be a 20ppg player if Lebron didn't force him to be a spot up shooter.


:wavefinger: I hope you're being sarcastic.

By the way someone said LeBron is idolizing Kobe and some other counter him with saying he's idolizing MJ. These both statements are wrong.
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Post#72 » by Milan24 » Thu May 29, 2008 1:58 am

Lebron doesn't idolize Kobe but he respects him and holds him in high regard.
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Re: Can you imagine LeBron James in the Laker offense? 

Post#73 » by hermes » Thu May 29, 2008 2:52 am

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