Official Lakers Offseason Trade Suggestions & Ideas

[Verbal]

thread is fine...but no sticky yet. Its not the offseason and I dont want to look past this title run.

No sweat, it's fine by me.

I just thought it's what the people needed and wanted.


Oh, and I could always change the title.

[Spanishraptor23]

I think Calderon is PERFECT for the Lakers game: is a "fist pass PG", unselfish, who can shot when the team need points, who can understand the triangle off and the team work... But LO + Farmar is a lot for him... LAkers must find another trade....

[MAMBAEMD]

I have to be honest in that I don't even want to think about trades, signings etc... until after the playoffs. I'm just thinking how/if the current team is gonna get past the Spurs and then the C's/Pistons.

That said, I realize that some people have a need to do this kind of thing now.

[anti_flag2008]

why ruin the chemistry, wait for bynum to come back and finish a season with all players healthy then weigh it out from there. Remember we have not seen all our laker healthy playing together.

[lakerfan10770]

Jose Calderon made $2.4mil last year and IS a Free Agent*, he will get a few MLE ($5.Xmil) offers, which is MORE than double of what he made this year. Pretty much ONLY Toronto will be able and willing to offer him more than the MLE.

So, Jose is FREE to accept ANY Offer from ANY Team and "IF" Pau can convince him that money should be secondary to winning a title, then Mitch should at least dangle the MLE out there in front of him.

If Jose makes it clear that he is leaving the Raptors, then they MIGHT be willing to do a sign and trade giving him a bit more money and getting some players in return.

Vlad and Farmer add up to $6.6 mil and should be enough to get the trade done.

Raps get a decent young fearless PG and a SG that can stretch defenses.

Lakers don't need Vlade with Odom moving to SG and Ariza and Walton as back-ups. And they get some competition at the Starting PG position.

* See Link: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm

He's restricted:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents

BTW, Hoopshype only lists the qualifying offers for 1st round picks, but any player with 3 or less years in the league can be a restricted free agent if his team gives him a qualify offer. In this case Toronto obviously would.

[garcia3]

For next year?? i don't know about Walton but Mitch needs to run Radman's ass outta here and bring someone that actually KNOWS how to play basketball and earn at least 75% of his salary

Radman is just a great shooting soft bigman that doesn't bring anything else to the table, plus he is a horrible contract on top of all.

He just takes 3's for the sake of it, not in rhythim like Sasha has been doing for a while now. I just hate his game with a passion, I rather have a Brian Cardinal

[salmahayek]

I see a very conservative offseason, whether the Lakers make The Finals, win it, or whatever.

Bottom line is, they are going to have potentially the biggest difference maker in the league added to their team no matter what anyone else does in the offseason in Andrew Bynum. I think it would be rash to make any big moves before seeing how that plays out.

The Lakers will likely make every reasonable attempt to resign Sasha and Turiaf this offseason. If they sign both, they may not even utilize the MLE, as it will only hike up their luxury tax bill.

If they only are able to keep one of the aforementioned players, then they might use the MLE to bring in a vet with the MLE or a lesser vet for the bench with the LLE.

You could make a case to try and trade Walton and / or Vlade, but the reality is their individual value around the league is lower than what they bring to the Lakers, Walton a solid all-around team guy who accepts his role no matter what it is.

Vlade, at the very least, gives the team spacing with his three - point shooting threat.

They could use their second round pick in this year's draft to try and bring in a power forward with some upside in the event we cannot resign Odom the following year. Perhaps someone like Detroit's Maxiell, or even another Turiaf - type.

The big question over the next couple of years is whether Buss and the Lakers eat some serious luxury tax and keep Odom, as well as, extend Bynum and then Farmar. Since Buss wants his legacy to be that he and the Lakers eclipse the Celtics as the NBA team with the most championships and the Celtics are a threat again, I bet he does all he can to make the Lakers all they can be and forks out the $$$.

[Leonidas]

I agree, do nothing until you see what a healthy Laker squad does next season.

If you have to make a move. Obviously you let Ira and maybe Mihm. I mean if this guys can't stay healthy, maybe he needs to hang it up or the Lakers need to chop him loose.

[chimpston17]

i suggested this trade on the raps board, didnt realize there was one so similar, but neways my suggestion was

Calderon (sign and trade), Kapono, and Humphries for Odom and Farmar

First of all, the lakers cannot simply sign calderon because they dont have the cap space, they only have the MLE and also colangelo has said he will match any offer. Why we would take radmanovic to let u have calderon is behind me... not happening. Calderon is happy playing for the raptors, and dont forget he is playing with garbajosa here, he isnt demanding out if we can pay him the most. That said we do need to trade one of our pgs to get an asset at another position, but we will not give up less than what they are worth. This trade seems good to me, Kapono is quite an upgrade over vlad cause he can actually shoot consistently..... really consistently. imagine all the open looks kobe and pau would get him. Odom is valuable but he is also a FA after next year, are the lakers going to pay him big money to come back when they already have bynum and gasol snatching up all the boards? I remember reading that they were unsure odom would be back, but dont remember where. Anyways i think its good for both teams, but if you disagree thats your opinion. Calderon is a flat out great point guard and very lovable as a player. Only thing bad is his D isnt great, but his offensive officiency is off the charts. 50% from the field, 40, from 3, and 90 from the line. And 8 assists to only 1.5 turnovers is ridiculous. Fishers gettin old. Most people in toronto prefer calderon but fords injury concerns lessen his trade value so in order to get the most trade value back they might look into dealing calderon. Anyways tho, I dont think the lakers would be downgrading talent here. Many thought Calderon could make the all star team last year, and as seen in the playoffs Kapono can be pretty effective player. Raps need to get bigger and get rebounding in the worst way and thats why id do this as a raps fan. But considering ur getting bynum back for next year, i dont think ur talent would be downgraded. If theres a chance of losing odom in free agency why not pick up some valuable pieces for him? If it isnt enough, raps also have moon and 17th pick as other assets to offer. odom is a valuable player though and i dont blame you if you didnt wanna give him up. guess the raps would have to look elsewhere for rebounding help. neways tho heres what the lineups would look like for such a trade

Calderon/fisher/vujacic
Kobe/vujacic/calderon
Kapono/Walton/Rad/Ariza
Gasol/Humphries/Turiaf
Bynum/Gasol/Mihm/Humphries

If you like you do, if not you dont. Im not gonna try to convince anymore cause none of us have any say in what the teams actually do anyways lol

[dockingsched]

calderon is going to immediately become BYC so a sign n trade with him is very very difficult. what salary do u think he will get and will this trade work financially?

also, lakers aren't taking on kapono. kapono, vlad, walton and ariza....no.

[chimpston17]

calderon is going to immediately become BYC so a sign n trade with him is very very difficult. what salary do u think he will get and will this trade work financially?

also, lakers aren't taking on kapono. kapono, vlad, walton and ariza....no.

he will probably make 8-10 million im guessing. So the trade would work financially. But if Kapono isnt wanted thered have to be some other tweaking around to make it work.

[BlackMamba12]

The Only Off-Season Moves we need are to move Vlad+Mihm+Newble.

[KObe Bryant]

we don't need to trade odom.

[davidse]

if bynum is healthy, odom needs to go.

[Dr Aki]

if bynum is healthy, odom moves to the 3

even if that doesnt work out, LO or bynum instantly becomes 6MOY

all we need is to sign artest and play him at 2 and move kobe to the 1

all 5 starters have a post game and any matchup is a mismatch in the post

[Trifecta7]

if bynum is healthy, odom needs to go.

Why not see how they work together with Gasol first?

[davidse]

-= original quote snipped =-


Why not see how they work together with Gasol first?

because they won't ?


there's no basketball related reason to assume that lamar odom as a small forward next to bynum and gasol will allow this team to get the most out of either of the 3 and thus becoming the best possible team we can be.

if i told you i had bynum and gasol as my bigs, lamar odom would be one of the last players you'd chose to put at small forward on that team.
the fact that he's already a laker doesn't change that.

expecting odom at small forward to maximize our team's ability is nothing but wishfull thinking, and there's nothing wrong with looking ahead and realizing it.

[hermes]

because they won't ?

i think a quote from yoda would work here

So certain are you....always with you it cannot be done

[davidse]

-= original quote snipped =-

a basketball related argument would have worked better if you ask me, but like i said - i'm not expecting many of those in support of odom at small forward on a half court team...

hope is so much easier...

[LAKESHOW]

there really is only 1 answer for next year.

ask Dr. Buss to open up the check book and take it on the chin.

the bottom line is WE WILL IMPROVE NEXT YEAR, with the return of bynum.

thats

bynum 7foot
pau 7foot
lamar 6-10

that interior lineup is what is going to be needed when the NEXT up and coming team to challenge us starts hittin hits stride. and that team is the PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS.

they will have

aldridge 7foot
oden 7 foot
channing frye - 7foot
pryzbilla - 7foot
raef lafrentz 7foot

now some of them are bums, but that rebounding category aint gonna get smaller. weve absolutely MUST improve in that category next year.

secondly, radmanovic is a shooter. we dont have too many of those from the perimeter at his bigforward spot. ive seen too many times in his offense where teams will take away every option and leave the big forward wide open. and many times we were hoping samaki walker or even horace grant would hit that shot. now radman may be off many a time, but he isnt a guy you want to leave wide open. watch old games of those LAKER 3peat teams, and that forward was always a weakspot in hitting that 15+foot jumper on a consistent basis.

walton is valuable and has that all important bball smarts that jax likes.

we cannot lose farmar. he knows the offense. he plays very fast. and to bring someone else in to relearn the triangle would be a bitch. remember smush?

sasha knows the offense like the back of his hand. and is an excellent shooter.

plenty others to mention. but the bottom line is this, DR. BUSS is the key. if he is willing to open up the check book and take a hit on the chin and pocket book, then hes got a long time winner. what that will mean however, is that ticket prices may go up to accomodate the needs of the fans.