Measurments. Update on pg 7: Beasley 6'8.25

[pramis123]

I am not concerned about his height. If he is 6'8.5 without shoes, just wear shoes when you play and grow out his Fro like Wallace and he will easily be 7'3. Besides, he is not a senior in college, but a 19 year old freshman who will probably still continue to grow. Look at how Wright is still growing everytime they do a Heat story about him.

[Hoops23]

What is funny is to see some non Heat fans who post in here and sell us Mayo for the #2. They come here and post some negative comments about Rose or Beasley but their concern is us taking Mayo and them taking either of the two. lol!

Elton Brand was believe to be 6'8" and Boozer is a little closer to 6'9" but are you going to pass on those guys if we have the cap space to sign them next year, I bet not.

Beasley can play both position as Walker and James Worthy did for Riley, and I think Beasley could play well with coach Eric. I don't know why some fans want to make big deal with the heaight of Beasley. Some known small PF are Anthony Mason, Maxiell, Landry, Leon Powe, Craig Smith, Chuck Hayes, Malik Rose etc. Our own Shawn Marion was a small PF in Phoenix.

second, I really think the Bulls will draft Beasley. They covet a post up player for a long time now. We will have Rose soon, unless Riley will trade the pick for an extablish player, as he said.

[Heat11114]

If he measured 6'8.5" without shoes that would likely put him at 6'9.75" with shoes which would list him at 6'10". Typically anyone .5" gets rounded up. Wade being a rare exception to this (6'4.75" in shoes listed at 6'4").

As far the the vertical, Wade only measured at 35", everyone thinks guys should come in with 40" verts but the reality is maybe 5 guys are above 38" each year and 2-3 of those guys don't even get drafted. Vertical is one of the most overrated measurement taken. On the offensive end the ability to finish around the basket, use both hands, and having a soft touch are way more important. Rebounding has more to do with positioning than jumping over guys.

[coldfish]

What is funny is to see some non Heat fans who post in here and sell us Mayo for the #2. They come here and post some negative comments about Rose or Beasley but their concern is us taking Mayo and them taking either of the two. lol!

Elton Brand was believe to be 6'8" and Boozer is a little closer to 6'9" but are going to pass on those guys if we have the cap space next year, I bet not.

Beasley can play both position as Walker and James Worthy did for Riley, and I think Beasley could play well with coach Eric. I don't know why some fans want to make big deal with the heaight of Beasley. Some known small PF are Anthony Mason, Maxiell, Landry, Leon Powe, Craig Smith, Chuck Hayes, Malik Rose etc. Our own Shawn Marion was a small PF in Phoenix.

second, I really think the Bulls will draft Beasley. They covet a post up player for a long time now. We will have Rose soon, unless Riley will trade the pick for an extablish player, as he said.

I'm laughing on two counts. First off, Magilla and myself are Bulls fans. We don't care who you draft.

Secondly, I would be shocked if the Bulls draft Beasley. The "post player" comments were not heard that much out of Chicago this year. However, Paxson *publicly* complained about PG play this year.

[coldfish]

here is Ford's comment on that
"Assuming he has a standing reach of about 8-foot-10, that's a 35-inch vertical. Not off the charts, but not too shabby, either."

so it's not "pretty bad"

That height is a combination of reach and jump. Its a low number. As Magilla just said, he was measured at 9'1" last year or so. 8'10" standing reach is short for a power forward.

Either he is short, or he can't jump if that 11'9" number is true. You pick which.

Edit add: I don't mean to trash Beasley. I was just relaying information. I still think he is a very skilled player who will be very good in the NBA. He is clearly top 2.

[Hoops23]

I'm laughing on two counts. First off, Magilla and myself are Bulls fans. We don't care who you draft.

Secondly, I would be shocked if the Bulls draft Beasley. The "post player" comments were not heard that much out of Chicago this year. However, Paxson *publicly* complained about PG play this year.

First of, your are not just the non Heat fans in this board. Second, you're drafting ahead of us, which means I'm refering to some of those fans whose team is drafting after the Heat. . . . Its really funny to see them post about negative comments with Rose and Beasley, and then they post some trades with us for those players. Isn't that funny?

If you will not draft Beasley, we don't care.
Because who ever you draft either of the two, its still going to be a good selection for Miami.

[coldfish]

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If you will not draft Beasley, we don't care.
Because who ever you draft either of the two, its still going to be a good selection for Miami.

I agree.

First of, your are not just the non Heat fans in this board. Second, you're drafting ahead of us, which means I'm refering to some of those fans whose team is drafting after the Heat.

I just commented because Magilla and I were the only non Heat fans to post in this thread recently.

[HIF]

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I'm laughing on two counts. We don't care who you draft.

Secondly, I would be shocked if the Bulls draft Beasley. The "post player" comments were not heard that much out of Chicago this year. However, Paxson *publicly* complained about PG play this year.

As a Miami Heat fan, may I say that I don't care who you draft. We'll get the player who has more toprove and will be hungrier for the snub.

You get the player who can be "seen" to fail if he is not immediately the best player taken in the draft.

This year no.2 is not at all a bad position especially for a rookie Coach.

[HeatSince88]

Beasley 6'8.5" without shoes?

- Taller than Al Jefferson and Ty Thomas measured

- About the same that Emeka Okafor and Al Horford measured

- And just a half-inch shorter than Dwight Howard measured

I'd say he's passed the measurement test. But that attitude he's got on display is a whole other issue ...

[LEIF]

I think the attitude issue is a moot point until he visits Miami 1 on 1 and they can interview him behind closed doors, this playful talk with the media isnt enough to sway a decision on a guy with this much talent IMO.

[coldfish]

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As a Miami Heat fan, may I say that I don't care who you draft. We'll get the player who has more toprove and will be hungrier for the snub.

You get the player who can be "seen" to fail if he is not immediately the best player taken in the draft.

This year no.2 is not at all a bad position especially for a rookie Coach.

Its definitely a good thing to be top 2 in a 2 player draft. All the pressure is on Chicago to pick the right guy and the guy picked there to prove he is worth it. Beyond that, Miami pays their pick a reasonable amount less.

The only way #1 makes a huge difference is if there ends up being a big difference between the two *and* Chicago picks the right one. Its possible, but given the situation, not likely.

[HeatInOhio]

Beasley 6'8.5" without shoes?

- Taller than Al Jefferson and Ty Thomas measured

- About the same that Emeka Okafor and Al Horford measured

- And just a half-inch shorter than Dwight Howard measured

I'd say he's passed the measurement test. But that attitude he's got on display is a whole other issue ...

Well the height issue is no one is sure if the measurement is with or without shoes... if it is with shoes then he's a little short for the position, if it is without shoes then he'll be close to 6'10" which is a good size for PF. I agree the attitude issues are concerning...

[BFRESH44]

Pretty sure both the standing reach and height have always been measured without shoes in the Orlando Camp

6'8".5 means Beasley grew about an inch since his senior year of High School.

Good money. That's absolutely 1000% fine.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Pretty sure both the standing reach and height have always been measured without shoes in the Orlando Camp

6'8".5 means Beasley grew about an inch since his senior year of High School.

Good money. That's absolutely 1000% fine.

They measure both with shoes and without shoes at the Orlando camp.

If he was 6'8.5" without shoes, I don't know why he would be disappointed and talking about being a 3 that can play some 4. But we'll find out for sure in a couple of days.

[HeatSince88]

I think the attitude issue is a moot point until he visits Miami 1 on 1 and they can interview him behind closed doors, this playful talk with the media isnt enough to sway a decision on a guy with this much talent IMO.

So as long as he says the right things in one Heat interview, there are no concerns about the childish things he says and does everywhere else?

I'm not saying I wouldn't draft the guy -- he's an awesome talent and his skills fill a need IMO -- but there's good reason to be concerned, as I believe Riley probably is.

When asked about being drafted by Miami, you shouldn't talk about South Beach, being young and dumb and having fun, and how you're "going to mess up" ... all without mentioning playing with Wade, or being drafted by Riley, or helping the team win again, etc.

After reading about Mayo and his Clubber-Lang-like drive, reading about Beasley and seeing his childishness and lack of focus firsthand, and knowing that Riley has a boner for Boozer and Brand (who play Beasley's position), it all adds up to me that Riley might be looking to move the pick unless Rose is there.

But I guess we'll see ...

[CoolD]

I think the fact the guy can't jump out the building every extra inch is important. How did people come to the conclusion that height is with shoes, or without?

But is scary the guy is supposedly clowning around. And to the guy that said the interview is what determines, that is far from the truth. When you apply for something, you will B.S your way through the interview. I think the fact the guy is clowning, when he is future is on the line, is just a scary prospect.


Reading the reports, it seems Mayo was pretty professional about it, and is the most advanced skill wise.

Rose does seem to have the most potential though.

[Miami's Finest]

Beasley did talk about playing with Wade.

Beasley, who averaged 26.2 points and 12.4 rebounds per game in his lone season at Kansas State, said his power game would be the perfect complement to Wade's perimeter set.

''It would be a dream come true to be on the court with Wade,'' said Beasley, who is confident Miami would quickly regroup from matching the worst season in franchise history.

``It can easily be turned around. They're a playoff team [already]. They've got the right links. Just get them all together.''

I like his personality, yes he plays with the media but would that make you not want Dwight Howard? Every report on him says he's a hard worker and my favorite line he has said is "I work hard to make it look easy."

I think the fact the guy can't jump out the building every extra inch is important. .

Beasley has enough height his size is comparable to several All-Star PF's, and to ignore his skills and a year's worth of him dominating college bball b/c of a inch doesn't make sense. Just look at some of the dunks at the beginning of this video if you worry about his leaping ability, very few PF's can do that type of stuff. http://youtube.com/watch?v=og2FHoXPF8E

Beasley has an outside shot probably as good as Rose, his midrange and post up game is awesome with the ability to score with either hand, and he will easily be a 10+ rebounder in this league. I can't see how anyone thinks he doesn't succeed in this league.

[BFRESH44]

I don't think I'm going to make it alive to June 26th. I'm certain my head will explode before that.

[Flash4thewin]

Hes clowning around because hes confident. Shaq did the same thing. If you were to look at there resumes, Beasley did more with less and dominated. Rose has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level. Mayo has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level either. Thats not to say they cant dominate its just that right now they will be drafted on potential instead of actual performance.

[CoolD]

Hes clowning around because hes confident. Shaq did the same thing. If you were to look at there resumes, Beasley did more with less and dominated. Rose has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level. Mayo has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level either. Thats not to say they cant dominate its just that right now they will be drafted on potential instead of actual performance.

College and NBA are two different worlds.

I give you many guys from Detroit Pistons, have worst individual stats than some players in sorry ass teams. But this guys are much more talented, but they just don't play in a team that they can take every single shot and pad their stats. Rose did about anything he wanted in the tournament, vs the best teams, that to me is more impressive than individual stats in regular season.

And to the guy that thinks College stats are important. Look up, J.J Redick, and Adam Morrison.

Just look how much a difference the pro game is vs College. That is why all this things matter.