? 1 great player or 2 good ones

thaAteam · Post #1 » by **thaAteam** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:09 pm

everybody talks about how clearing cap space to max out player is so great but imo id rather have two really good players at 10 mil a year, like a caron butler and manu ginobili, instead of a lebron james, thoughts?

Speedlot · Post #2 » by **Speedlot** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:12 pm

Lebron sells you more tickets.

P2 · Post #3 » by P2 » Sat May 31, 2008 8:13 pm

LeBron > Butler + Ginobili

Post #4 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:13 pm

Great player, not close. I can see the argument for any other sport but basketball, but it's proven time and time again this is a superstar league.

Farsi Man · Post #5 » by **Farsi Man** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:18 pm

IMO you need 2 decent players. Look at Kobe, he's the best player in the league but even he needs someone to stop the other team from doubling. That's why Lebron won't win a championship unless he gets a 2nd option.

prekazi · Post #6 » by **prekazi** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:20 pm

Just check LeBron's playoff journey.

LeBron > Arenas-Butler-Jamison
LeBron > Kidd-Carter-Jefferson
LeBron > Detroit Pistons

Only teams which lead by great players such as Boston and Spurs has been able to beat LeBron. Yes, Detroit beat him once but he was only 21 years old and it was his first playoff appearence so I didn't count it.

So it's easily the great player, but also remember that one great player is never enough! (to win a championship)

Post #7 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:22 pm

Exactly, the two teams that beat LeBron had great players + great supporting casts.

Storm Surge · Post #8 » by **Storm Surge** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:28 pm

prekazi wrote:Just check LeBron's playoff journey.

LeBron > Arenas-Butler-Jamison
LeBron > Kidd-Carter-Jefferson
LeBron > Detroit Pistons

Only teams which lead by great players such as Boston and Spurs has been able to beat LeBron. Yes, Detroit beat him once but he was only 21 years old and it was his first playoff appearence so I didn't count it.

So it's easily the great player, but also remember that one great player is never enough! (to win a championship)

You're forgetting someone named Boobie Gibson that w/o him LeBron would have lost the series against the Pistons.

Even with that, Kobe(who is better than LeBron) couldn't win a series in the West w/o getting help.

JellosJigglin · Post #9 » by **JellosJigglin** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:28 pm

Depends on what people consider "great". For me, I can count the number of "great" players in the league on one hand. Listing them would just derail the thread so I'm not going to do that. But the point is, great players are rare. If you have a chance to get one, you do it. At all costs.

1 great player >>>> 2 good players

Speedlot · Post #10 » by **Speedlot** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:31 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Exactly, the two teams that beat LeBron had great players + great supporting casts.

Uh why does this statement need to be said?

You lose in the playoffs. You usually lose to a better team. Gasp?

prekazi · Post #11 » by **prekazi** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:42 pm

Storm Surge wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You're forgetting someone named Boobie Gibson that w/o him LeBron would have lost the series against the Pistons.

Even with that, Kobe(who is better than LeBron) couldn't win a series in the West w/o getting help.

I never said LeBron beat those teams single handidly. I didn't say he beat them without help. It's impossible. But great players like LeBron and Kobe can turn guys like Boobie Gibson into playoff heroes, good players can't do that, couple of very good players can't do that also as we see in the cases I mentioned.(wizards, nets...) That's why 1 true great player is better than 2 or 3 very good player.

halfHAVOC · Post #12 » by **halfHAVOC** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:43 pm

prekazi wrote:Just check LeBron's playoff journey.

LeBron > Arenas-Butler-Jamison
LeBron > Kidd-Carter-Jefferson
LeBron > Detroit Pistons

Only teams which lead by great players such as Boston and Spurs has been able to beat LeBron. Yes, Detroit beat him once but he was only 21 years old and it was his first playoff appearence so I didn't count it.

So it's easily the great player, but also remember that one great player is never enough! (to win a championship)

pshh 50% RJ and no rebounding bigs

thaAteam · Post #13 » by **thaAteam** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:50 pm

so my questions is this, if u pull lebron off cleveland and add manu and butler (i knw manu is a spur) would the cavs hav not went to the finals?

Post #14 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:57 pm

The Cavs wouldn't have come close to beating Boston without LeBron. El oh el.

ToffKobe · Post #15 » by **ToffKobe** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:50 pm

thaAteam wrote:so my questions is this, if u pull lebron off cleveland and add manu and butler (i knw manu is a spur) would the cavs hav not went to the finals?

Are you really serious?

shawngoat23 · Post #16 » by **shawngoat23** » Sun Jun 1, 2008 12:13 am

Great player, easily. I'll take a great player over three or even four good ones, because it's easier to surround him with talent eventually.

Patterns · Post #17 » by **Patterns** » Sun Jun 1, 2008 8:15 pm

thaAteam wrote:so my questions is this, if u pull lebron off cleveland and add manu and butler (i knw manu is a spur) would the cavs hav not went to the finals?

No.