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Post#61 » by SnakefromHell » Sat May 31, 2008 3:05 am

Well said... you change about 30% of my perception of Melo...

Look at J.R. Smith, he sucks at D but he tries EVERY time... I've never seen J.R. lay down ever, although he still lets guys blow past him. But he tries... that's the point. Try. Give some energy. Put some effort.

J.R.: "Geee I sucked tonight at defense"
Whoever: "Oh well you tried J.R."

Melo: "Geee I sucked tonight at defense"
Whoever: "Oh well you tried Melo... NOT"

Isn't it ugly?

Well I'm now more willing to drop all these let's trade Melo thing and just put up for another season... let's see how it goes.
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Post#62 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sat May 31, 2008 3:11 am

Hey, you don't need to drop wanting Melo traded, if the deals are actually worth it for Denver. The thing that gets me is how you make a judgment of him as a complete person.

You want to call him lazy on defense? Fine. You want to claim he is a lazy person and doesn't care about winning? That where I have issue, since you can't know either of those.
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Post#63 » by SnakefromHell » Sat May 31, 2008 3:40 am

^This is where you fail...

If he TRULY CARED about winning, would he be lazy on defense?

I don't think so.
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Post#64 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sat May 31, 2008 4:21 am

No, that is where you fail. You aren't thinking. You're acting like a know it all again, while not knowing.

Go re-read el loco's post.

I'm done with you. Thanks for showing me again, how useless it is trying to be reasonable with you, since you are nothing but a troll.
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Post#65 » by SnakefromHell » Sat May 31, 2008 8:37 am

^You said it yourself... "You want to call him lazy on defense? Fine."

This means you are aware that Melo is lazy or justified to be perceived as lazy on defense?

Let me know exactly how someone who genuinely and truly wants to win but is lazy to win at the same time.
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Post#66 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sat May 31, 2008 5:25 pm

This means you are aware that Melo is lazy or justified to be perceived as lazy on defense?

No. I said, "The thing that gets me is how you make a judgment of him as a complete person."

So what it means is, I don't care if you want to call him lazy on defense. That does not mean I agree or disagree with you. Or even justifies what you think. It means if you want to bash part of his game, I'm fine with that. Its when you decide to judgment him as a person that annoys me.

Can't believe I had to clear up my last post. Actually, with you I can.

And this is not me being a Melo lover. I just hate little know it alls who think they know all about someone, when they know very little. So stop with your (Please Use More Appropriate Word) judgments of him as a person and just bash his game instead.
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Post#67 » by SnakefromHell » Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:09 am

^To clear things up, I never hate Melo as a person. I think he's very approachable and is very friendly type of guy... are you done?

I only bash his game and what he does on the court. I don't care if he wants to be all smiley and lovable and cuddly cuddly cute on cameras but not when on the court when he's supposed to be intense.

You brought up Isiah Thomas, Magic who smiled often... but were they intense? Were they focused? Did they play with passion and energy? Were they ruthless competitors? Yes.

But with Melo you can't say the same the same. Can you honestly say here Melo is "intense", plays with focus, passion and energy, and is very competitive when he's on the court? When he lays down on defense and plays like he's wearing invisible pyjamas on the court.
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Post#68 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sun Jun 1, 2008 3:08 pm

You brought up Isiah Thomas, Magic who smiled often

Uhh.. no I didn't. And I never said you hated him. I said you judging him as a person was what was annoying me. When you call him lazy and say he doesn't care about winning, you are not bashing part of his game. You are bashing him personally.
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Post#69 » by stefano2006 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 2:21 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
You brought up Isiah Thomas, Magic who smiled often

Uhh.. no I didn't. And I never said you hated him. I said you judging him as a person was what was annoying me. When you call him lazy and say he doesn't care about winning, you are not bashing part of his game. You are bashing him personally.


Is is Lala Vasquez under the name of Nutty Nats Fan!!!!!
I guess you even know what is melo's favor ice cream
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Post#70 » by The Rebel » Mon Jun 2, 2008 2:42 pm

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Is is Lala Vasquez under the name of Nutty Nats Fan!!!!!
I guess you even know what is melo's favor ice cream
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Post#71 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:17 pm

Is is Lala Vasquez under the name of Nutty Nats Fan!!!!!

No, I'd be doing this for any Nuggets player if some know it all was going after one of them. Like I said, it has nothing to do with Melo. I just hate know it alls who think they know all about someone, when they know very little.

And I 2nd what Rebel said. You must be AI's wife or something.
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Post#72 » by stefano2006 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:35 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Is is Lala Vasquez under the name of Nutty Nats Fan!!!!!

No, I'd be doing this for any Nuggets player if some know it all was going after one of them. Like I said, it has nothing to do with Melo. I just hate know it alls who think they know all about someone, when they know very little.

And I 2nd what Rebel said. You must be AI's wife or something.



Now I have the rebel and the nutty on my ***....lol

Let s make it simple, I agree and not afraid to say it, I like Denver team a lot, i was for the AI trade, I am an AI fan...I am bored of these AI/Melo sh***

You all find a new superhero here or what in the name of Melo....I am not that deeply involve in that AI life(so sorry i am not AI's wife kid.)
I am just deeply disapointted in the hate you give to one guy that a lot of peole consider one of the best player of all time, AI.
the guy is selfish, oh yes it is, like Kobe, Like MJ was like all the best players"mostly" are, and please don t tell me Melo is a team guy acting.

So I agree with you since AI arrived it maybe not the best scenario for Melo, but Melo will not bring Denver somewhere, this is a fact and it has been proven since the past years.
Before AI came the team was full of good and famous player, the ywent nowhere, and now again they go nowhere.

So if you don t want me to be hypocrite or any Sh** like that, please make this blog to speak about the nuggets, the future something concretes and not the AI/Melo thing...
Nobody talk about how poor Camby was in the playoffs, nobody talk about how poor Karl was in his choice and nobody even want to consider the idea of tradind Melo (we can t do it with AI, the guy is already 32...)

You are saying so loud that you are real fan, you are not, you are players fan, you are Melo fans here mostly, I like Ai, like I like KG or stephen jackson...i am not gonna cry if they trade AI tommorrow, I will still like Denver, I was in another blog before, a friend of mine told me about realgm, i came(in fact it look stupid because i change during the AI trade), I used to be in a blog where it was a fight regarding how childish melo was and how F** up this AI trade was.


So what will be next if AI is traded and next year Denver don t even touch the playoff, because that might be the scenario.

The spots will be gladly the same, exept Portland will get Oden back!!!!!
so Denver will fight again for 8th seed

So as I stipulated before, it is always the same people who writes here, so you ll be probably happy, but I m out...it is a waist of time!!!
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Post#73 » by stefano2006 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:40 pm

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You act like you do not want to do the AI / Melo thing, yet you only post to slam the other Nuggets who are not AI? talk about a hypocrite.


Once again I don t give a s** about AI....If I slam the non AI guy, you are right, because you are only 3 writers and 3 Ai Haters, so where are my choice then...
I admit AI has mistakes, but Melo also....

I just want to see how they can match with another coach!!!!!!!
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Post#74 » by The Rebel » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:30 pm

stefano2006 wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Is is Lala Vasquez under the name of Nutty Nats Fan!!!!!

No, I'd be doing this for any Nuggets player if some know it all was going after one of them. Like I said, it has nothing to do with Melo. I just hate know it alls who think they know all about someone, when they know very little.

And I 2nd what Rebel said. You must be AI's wife or something.



Now I have the rebel and the nutty on my ***....lol

Let s make it simple, I agree and not afraid to say it, I like Denver team a lot, i was for the AI trade, I am an AI fan...I am bored of these AI/Melo sh***


So why is every post I have ever seen from you attacking those who do not agree with you about AI? If you are so tired of it why is every post the same from you?
stefano2006 wrote:You all find a new superhero here or what in the name of Melo....I am not that deeply involve in that AI life(so sorry i am not AI's wife kid.)


I love this, so we have found a superhero in Melo, yet every single one of your posts are about AI? You can say whatever you want, but reality is we know who has the superhero problem.
stefano2006 wrote:I am just deeply disapointted in the hate you give to one guy that a lot of peole consider one of the best player of all time, AI.
the guy is selfish, oh yes it is, like Kobe, Like MJ was like all the best players"mostly" are, and please don t tell me Melo is a team guy acting.


You are right Melo is not a team guy, I mean doing whatever the team ass of him is not being team guy is it? Sure he could pass more, but the other players have to get to positions where he can find them, and actually hit shots when he does pass it to them.
stefano2006 wrote:So I agree with you since AI arrived it maybe not the best scenario for Melo, but Melo will not bring Denver somewhere, this is a fact and it has been proven since the past years.


Right because 5 straight trips to the playoffs are nowhere, whereas AI has shown he can do it in possibly the weakest conference ever surrounded by an all defense team. So when did the Nuggets build an actual team around Melo, so that he could show what he could do when the opposition cannot double and triple him every trip down the court in the playoffs?

stefano2006 wrote:Before AI came the team was full of good and famous player, the ywent nowhere, and now again they go nowhere.


Good and famous players? Who Camby? Name the starting Sg prior to JR arriving in Denver. How many games have Nene, Camby, and KMart play combined in any one year? So the Nuggets had 1 and a 1/2 good bigs and a steady Pg, yet they always have made the playoffs since Melo got here. Here is a question, how many times has AI missed the playoffs?

stefano2006 wrote:So if you don t want me to be hypocrite or any Sh** like that, please make this blog to speak about the nuggets, the future something concretes and not the AI/Melo thing...
You want to talk about hypocrites look in the mirror, you continually pull the same **** over and over again. So Nuggets fans are not allowed to speak about the top two players? Or is it only that they are not allowed to say a thing about AI without AI fans attacking them and Melo? I am tired of this crap from AI fans, it is ridiculous, you want to say whatever you feel like saying but if anybody says a damn thing about it, you cry about how you are tired of hearing about AI, bring up Melo, and then the next post cry about how you are tired of the discussion, and everybody picking on you and AI.

stefano2006 wrote:Nobody talk about how poor Camby was in the playoffs, nobody talk about how poor Karl was in his choice and nobody even want to consider the idea of tradind Melo (we can t do it with AI, the guy is already 32...)


I thought it was agreed that Camby did crap in the playoffs, there just is nobody that has taken the time to defend him, or cry about it so where is the discussion.

AS for trading Melo, anybody who would trade Melo where we don't clearly win in the trade is dumb as hell, you do not bring success by trading a 23 year old all star who is still improving like Melo, to build around a 32 year old, who has only been proven to win anything with a HOF defensive center and a ton of defensive role players. Only AI homers would think that is not the most (Please Use More Appropriate Word) move a team could make.

stefano2006 wrote:You are saying so loud that you are real fan, you are not, you are players fan, you are Melo fans here mostly, I like Ai, like I like KG or stephen jackson...i am not gonna cry if they trade AI tommorrow, I will still like Denver, I was in another blog before, a friend of mine told me about realgm, i came(in fact it look stupid because i change during the AI trade), I used to be in a blog where it was a fight regarding how childish melo was and how F** up this AI trade was.

You did not have to tell us, we were all pretty sure you would cry if AI was traded. As for the other blog it was probably me in that blog as you call it as well. I have always been the harshest critic of the AI trade, and every thing I said would happen has, so what.

As for Melo being called childish on that board 2 years ago, I would think that should have been proven wrong by now, a year and a half of watching this team implode once again, while not pulling the typical trade demand and running to the media is pretty damn mature if you ask me.

stefano2006 wrote:So what will be next if AI is traded and next year Denver don t even touch the playoff, because that might be the scenario.


What happens if they keep AI and Melo and miss the playoffs? Or what happens if the keep AI and miss the playoffs the next 5 years? AI has already shown that he does not have the ability to get a team to the playoffs by himself. Otherwise he would not have missed them some many times in the weaker conference.
stefano2006 wrote:The spots will be gladly the same, exept Portland will get Oden back!!!!!
so Denver will fight again for 8th seed

So Denver gets worse by trading AI (although it has been proven over and over again that they did not get better after trading for him), yet Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix who are all aging fast, but everybody else gets worse as well? Did you ever stop to think that the pieces we could get back from an AI deal would actually make the Nuggets better as a team? It is possible just look at Philly for proof, and they got next to nothing for him.

stefano2006 wrote:So as I stipulated before, it is always the same people who writes here, so you ll be probably happy, but I m out...it is a waist of time!!!


Oh more of the drama queen ****, poor you, you constantly attack posts from Nuggets fans and Melo fans, and then cry when they have something to say about it. If you want to leave, then leave, some of us are tired of hearing about your love for AI in every single post.
stefano2006 wrote:Once again I don t give a s** about AI....If I slam the non AI guy, you are right, because you are only 3 writers and 3 Ai Haters, so where are my choice then...


Right so now the whole board is AI haters? If you were really on other Nuggets boards you would realize that this board has the reputation of the hangout for all the AI homers. The fact of the matter is that there are about three of us that have the nerve to defend the Nuggets, the fans, the city, and the organization from all you so called Nuggets fans who only care about AI and how he is perceived and how he looks.
stefano2006 wrote:I admit AI has mistakes, but Melo also....


Who as ever said Melo does not have his problems? AI fans love to make this statement as if others do not admit to them, it is you and the other AI fans that cannot take criticism of your hero AI.
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What coach would honestly take the job? especially one who could do better with this team ass dysfunctional as they are? I always see AI fans saying the team needs a new coach, fine then what coach works with AI? AS he has had somewhere around a million of them and nobody can ever get it to work. This team needs changes in personnel as it does not fit, and everybody outside of certain AI fans can see it, and they would be able to see i if they were not so worried about the idea that AI could be traded and the Nuggets could improve, further hurting his reputation and legacy.
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Post#75 » by stefano2006 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 8:42 pm

You are a real rebel...lol
Thank you for that nice reading you gave me, at least i took your attention for what i have said...you wrote that middle morning i guess, don t you have a job or, because i think it took you time...lol...
Anyway :clap: :clap: :clap: you deserve them.

And you might be right, i was maybe defending AI too much, well...yeah maybe...but I prefer to not continue because between me and you the forum will get bored if not already.
Just one thing that you were deeply wrong, AI brought his team to the finals in 2001(but maybe you did not wanted to see it, and his team was not that good, but i m sure melo will bring a title soon....
thank for having taking the time to write your story...
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Post#76 » by RRFB » Tue Jun 3, 2008 11:05 pm

Excellent post Rebel.

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