Dwight vs. Amare (and more...)

NbdyBeatsTheWiz · Post #1 » by **NbdyBeatsTheWiz** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:33 pm

Help me resolve and argument with my roomate as well as my friend by briefly answering the following questions. If you feel it's needed, provide your reasoning in no more than 2 sentences.

1.) Who would you rather have, Dwight Howard or Amare Stoudemire?

2.) Hypothetically, would the Pistons have been better off and eventually gone to the Finals if they had Dwight Howard instead of Rasheed?

3.) Would Chris Bosh or Tim Duncan put up better #'s than Dwight at the center position instead of their natural PF position?

4.) Would you take any other current NBA center over Dwight Howard? Why?

Thanks for the help to all!

DrunkOnMystery · Post #2 » by **DrunkOnMystery** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:37 pm

1. Howard
2. No
3. Duncan plays like a center already, and Bosh was manhandled by Howard when he played center in the 1st round this year. So this question is kind of a wash.
4. No. Howard is 22, has never missed a game, plays well on both ends, and has made clear, noticeable improvements to his game every year, and has shown no real indication that improvements won't continue.

MagicFan149 · Post #3 » by **MagicFan149** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:41 pm

1.) I would have to go with dwight here because of amare's lack of game outside of scoring... dwight is better at rebounding and defense by leaps and bounds...

2.) I dont think the way the pistons are constructed it would have been much more benefitial to the pistons to have dwight... sheed's skill set is perfect for the pistons his passing and shooting ability help there offense considerably... and the pistons have already made the finals so that isnt really hypothetically....

3.) Both bosh and duncan play some time at the 5... this question is irrelavent (sp).... 4 or 5 doesnt make that much difference .... duncan just doesnt like being called a 5, but he is...

4.) no. dwight in each offseason comes back with something new and hes only 22... the focus that he shows on the deffensive end and the glass is amazing... he makes 20/20 games seem normal... and when he gets 20/15 you think he had a bad game... and dwight draws so much attention when hes in the post he makes the game so much easier for everyone else on the floor... i definately wouldnt take any other center over dwight

Post #4 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:26 pm

I would still take LeBron over Howard, he's just a flat out better player, only a year older, and has just as much room for improvement.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #5 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 4:11 pm

1.) Dwight Howard **** on Stoudemire..

2.) yes IMO..Sheed is a better post defender and much more versatile offensively, but Howard is a much better player at this point..I'd take the much better player, since he plays the same position anyways, and isn't weak defensively and especially not on the boards..

3.) Bosh wouldn't..Duncan could in the playoffs, but certainly not in the regular season, where he doesn't give as much effort..

4.) I would definitely take Duncan if you count him as a C..otherwise, I'd take a healthy Yao..I feel like they're a wash defensively..Howard is better on the boards..but Yao is much more versatile and has the ability to give you a variety of offense on the floor..better shooter, much better passer..

Ballings7 · Post #6 » by **Ballings7** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 8:50 pm

1. Easily Dwight. Amare's terrific for what he is, but too one-dimensonal.

2. Maybe.

3. Bosh, no. Duncan, no, numbers-wise, because he coasts quite a bit during the regular season. But I think he'd make more of an impact because he's just a better player on both ends. He plays more like a center, also.

4. No. What Dwight is now, his age, durability, and how much he'll get better.

carrottop12 · Post #7 » by **carrottop12** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:17 pm

1.Dwight is so much better it's sickening, if he had Nash instead of Nelson or Arroyo he would be regarded as the best player in the NBA right now.

2. If Dwight had Chauncey, Rip, Maxiell, Ratliff, McDyess and Prince next to him, he would be disgusting.

3, Duncan is a Center, and his stats are on the downfall, Bosh definitely not.

4. I probably wouldn't take any other player over Dwight in the NBA right now, you can't diminish the importance of a low post defender, low post scorer, and awesome rebounder all wrapped up into one player, it's amazing what he can do.

Baller 24 · Post #8 » by **Baller 24** » Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:18 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I would still take LeBron over Howard, he's just a flat out better player, only a year older, and has just as much room for improvement.

Once the guy gets a nice jump shot going, its over, give him the thrown.
Wade also gets mentioned for this.

Forest · Post #9 » by **Forest** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 12:29 am

The Pistons replace sheed with Dwight Howard they don't just go to the finals they win it easily.

kookie_819 · Post #10 » by **kookie_819** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 3:02 am

1. Dwight

2. Well, maybe... I do think that the C's have no answer for Dwight in the post, especially when he's paired up with Billups, Stuckey, Rip, McDyess, Prince... And the regular season doesn't mean much, but during the regular season games against Boston, Dwight did fairly well. But in the end, I don't think the Pistons would get to the finals.

3. Putting Chris Bosh is laughable; he got destroyed in the playoffs. Duncan basically plays center for the Spurs, and while fundamentally better, he might not have enough in him to get better numbers than a 22 year old beast.

4. No. Yao and Dwight are a wash right now, but Yao has injury concerns while Dwight has never missed a game, and Dwight is 5 years younger. Besides Yao, I don't think anyone else comes close as of now (Duncan's age puts him below the two)

Baller 24 · Post #11 » by **Baller 24** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 3:15 am

Batronuj wrote:

3, Duncan is a Center, and his stats are on the downfall

Downfall? I don't think so.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ati01.html
The guy lead the league in defensive winshares, not to mention he was still accountable for 32 winshares, while only 8 losses. Another interesting fact, his career winshare record is 399 to only 65 losses. Those are Larry Bird numbers, if not close to. I don't think he is on the downfall, the only time he will be IMO on the downfall will be the day he retires.

Cybulski37 · Post #12 » by **Cybulski37** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 4:15 am

1. Dwight.
2.Is it this year's Dwight on their championship team? Or if they say, traded the #2 to Orlando for their next year #1, got Dwight, and are there now? I'd say they would have one ring by now, and if not, get some soon.
3. Duncan is essentially a center, and he is capable of taking over games still. He can't do it every single night all the time, but when he has to, he comes up huge. So I think he would. Bosh, on the other hand, should not be playing center. He's a great power forward, but he should not be a center.
4.No. Dwight's upside is still tremendous.

Cammo101 · Post #13 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 6:38 am

Ballings7 wrote:1. Easily Dwight. Amare's terrific for what he is, but too one-dimensonal.

2. Maybe.

3. Bosh, no. Duncan, no, numbers-wise, because he coasts quite a bit during the regular season. But I think he'd make more of an impact because he's just a better player on both ends. He plays more like a center, also.

4. No. What Dwight is now, his age, durability, and how much he'll get better.

Correct answer.

bluestang302 · Post #14 » by **bluestang302** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 8:06 pm

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1. Howard, because he's younger and doesn't have the injury concerns. I like Amare alot as well, but I'd take Dwight first.

2. I'd have to think so. Sheed is a very good, versatile player but Howard is just plain better at this point. I certainly think he would have altered the Celtic's gameplan alot more than Rasheed did, so who knows where it goes from there.

3. Duncan's numbers would be the same as now, which are about equal with Dwight's when you even off the minutes. Bosh isn't as good a rebounder or shot-blocker as the other two.
of their natural PF position?

4. No. Yao is too injury prone, and I have concerns about his mobility as well. I think it's a tossup between who would go #1 in a Franchise-starting draft - Lebron, Dwight, and Chris Paul. They have the best combination of talent, upside, and youth. Kobe and Duncan are great options, but a little older. Wade has injury concerns, but could arguably be the 4th member of that group if he comes back strong. Dwight ranks a good ways ahead of Yao for me, at least in terms of who I'd pick to start my team

Malinhion · Post #15 » by **Malinhion** » Thu Jun 5, 2008 8:23 pm

NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:1.) Who would you rather have, Dwight Howard or Amare Stoudemire?

Dwight, no matter who the team is. He's played 82 games every season and he's only missed one career start. Amare is more damaged goods than a Thai hooker.

2.) Hypothetically, would the Pistons have been better off and eventually gone to the Finals if they had Dwight Howard instead of Rasheed?

This year? Maybe. Sheed is a defensive stalwart and the force that pushed them to the first title. I'm not so sure here, but I think the team can't be much worse with Dwight, chemistry aside.

3.) Would Chris Bosh or Tim Duncan put up better #'s than Dwight at the center position instead of their natural PF position?

Chris Bosh - LMFAO NO! Bosh is a beanpole with no physicality.
Tim Duncan - Probably not at this stage in his career.

4.) Would you take any other current NBA center over Dwight Howard? Why?!

No. He just plays at a level above everyone else right now.

20/20 three times to make it to the second round. Yao's soft ass hasn't even sniffed that kind of playoff performance.