Is this a travel in the NBA ?

[Sroek]

Kobe never travels. Don't question the Bryant.

Okay seriously, it is a travel. Anyone with a brain knows that it's a travel.
I have seem Kobe has been pulling the same move in every game and he's gotten away with it.

NBA refs are a joke.

Dude your alias is T-Mac something and your sig screams bandwagon.

Anyone with a brain would know that neither foot was established as the pivot.

[astrallite]

Kobe does variations of this move, they are all travels. You can't do a 2-foot jump stop and THEN decide to take an extra step.

A jump stop IS the two steps you get after picking up the ball, technically you wouldn't have a pivot foot in this case. The only thing you can legally do in this situation is jump straight up--anything else is a traveling violation.

Shaq used to do this all the time when he was younger but then they started calling it as a travel and he started just doing spin moves instead of driving toward the basket.

[Sroek]

Kobe does variations of this move, they are all travels. You can't do a 2-foot jump stop and THEN decide to take an extra step.

A jump stop IS the two steps you get after picking up the ball, technically you wouldn't have a pivot foot in this case. The only thing you can legally do in this situation is jump straight up--anything else is a traveling violation.

Shaq used to do this all the time when he was younger but then they started calling it as a travel and he started just doing spin moves instead of driving toward the basket.

Wow are you kidding me, learn your basketball. You can always pivot yourself whenever you're stationary.

[robbe]

If you perfectly execute a two-foot jump-stop, it counts as one contact.

Problems is that the jump stop very often isn't sober, but players get away with it.

In FIBA, travelling used to be called more strictly. That was before Team USA and all their stars had big problems with it. Since then, there's a lot of tolerance and the most obvious violations are being left uncalled. Sure a coincidence though ...

[TMU]

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Dude your alias is T-Mac something and your sig screams bandwagon.

Anyone with a brain would know that neither foot was established as the pivot.

Anyone with a brain would have checked my location.

[Jordan23Forever]

LOL @ anyone who thinks that isn't a travel. His left foot lands first, which establishes it as the pivot foot. The only time you can declare either foot your pivot off of a stepback/hop step etc. is when they both land at the same time.

HOWEVER, that certainly should not have been called under the current interpretation of the rules, for two reasons: one, many players get away with FAR more egregious travels every game; and two, a player like Kobe's footwork is so good, subtle, and quick that the refs likely didn't even see it in real time.

[Bank Shot]

DEFINATELY a travel. The NBA has let the travelling issue get out of hand IMO.

You see more blantant ones all the time that get missed by the refs, but this should have been called. Tough call for the refs because it was so awkward but one that should idealy be made.

[Ern III]

The backwards move as he picks up his dribble can't be defined as a jump-stop. A jump-stop is the simultaneous landing of both feet. The question is: when does Bryant capture the ball? If it is before he clearly plants one foot before the other - left foot first - and stops, then that first-planted left foot immediately becomes the pivot foot, and that's two steps already once he plants the right. If he picks up that left foot and plants again elsewhere, that's a third step on his way to the hoop, whether he takes off from both feet or not.

I'm not sure how the rule pertains to simultaneous ball-capture and foot-strike. Referees' discretion, perhaps?

Just to add: my biggest pet peeve is the way almost every perimeter catch is an un-whistled travel. Admittedly, most of these unfettered violations arise when an offensive player is running away from the hoop to catch a perimeter-to-perimeter pass. It seems as though the refs have arbitrarily decided that if an offensive player isn't gaining a decided advantage then they won't toot their whistle.

[nat4023]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9vJFz8ORa0

[Fizzy]

The question is: when does Bryant capture the ball? If it is before he clearly plants one foot before the other - left foot first - and stops, then that first-planted left foot immediately becomes the pivot foot, and that's two steps already once he plants the right.

Watching in slow motion and zoomed in, it appears that he is touching the ball with both hands before his left foot hits the ground, but it's very close and difficult to tell for sure.

[Ern III]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9vJFz8ORa0

That's an egregious miss by the referees. There's no grey area in that particular case.

What makes me chortle is this newly minted term "European Walk"; as if the European league-raised players have somehow smuggled the rule's utter disregard in to the NBA.

I hope someone has since told Marv Albert that the U.S. Virgin Islands is not part of Europe. Is geography part of the curriculum over there? Soon you quirky Americans will be calling the NBA winners 'World Champions'.

[lukeridenour]

theres no way thats a travelling violation, esp since this one isnt either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9Z1wAwQtM