Prime: Chris Webber vs. Elton Brand

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Post#21 » by pillwenney » Thu Jun 5, 2008 6:35 pm

Hunter wrote:I think CWebbs defense (or lack there of) gets seriously overstated. He certainly wasn't a great defender and he definitely had lapses, but he wasn't this giant sieve everybody seems to think either.

IMO he was average or maybe slightly below, but at times when he really locked in he was serviceable. He actually played some decent defense against Shaq and the Lakers....the problem was nobody was going to stop Shaq, but was able to get down low on him and at least battle him.

People forget the Kings actually lead the league in defensive fg% one year. A lot of people seem to equate them to those early '00s Mavs teams, but in truth the reason the Kings always got the better of them was because the Kings *could* play some defense. Guys like BJax, Christie & Vlade had a lot to do with that, but CWebb was part of it too. It's just that their high powered offense got all the attention.


Yup. Personally, I would say that in his prime, Chris was even an above-average defender. I think people remember too quickly C-Webb at the end of his career when his D sucked because he couldn't move. He was certainlly never a Tim Duncan (or a Brand for that matter) defensively, but he wasn't as bad as many think.

Personally, as someone that loves Brand and think he is generally underrated, I'll go with Chris. You could really base an entire offensive system around his skills--that is a very rare level of talent.
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Post#22 » by penbeast0 » Fri Jun 6, 2008 2:22 am

Webber . . . focused and playing the way his coaches wanted is a better player, a unique talent. Webber . . . . playing his own way and not listening to his coaches as he always ended up doing for most of his career, is a player that brings a lot less to a team than Elton Brand. Webber at his peak, focused, and playing the team game is a HOF player. Webber as he actually played, for all his great talent, is not.
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Post#23 » by pillwenney » Fri Jun 6, 2008 4:13 am

penbeast0 wrote:Webber . . . focused and playing the way his coaches wanted is a better player, a unique talent. Webber . . . . playing his own way and not listening to his coaches as he always ended up doing for most of his career, is a player that brings a lot less to a team than Elton Brand. Webber at his peak, focused, and playing the team game is a HOF player. Webber as he actually played, for all his great talent, is not.


Most of his career? You mean his first 5 seasons?

Not to mention the fact that this thread specifically asked about the players' primes--in his prime, Chris had none of these problems.

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