NBA Finals: Boston vs. LA Lakers - Series BOS leads (1-0)

[DEEP3CL]

Finally, wasn't that 4 point bank-shot play awesome?

Hell everything else was going right for him why not hit a 4 point play, kinda just fit in with the moment.

[Cruel_Ruin]

Kobe has yet to prove he can beat Boston's defense. Until he does that, I don't see the Lakers winning

[CB4MiamiHeat]

Anybody see the Laker players complain about the rim

[Skai]

Anybody see the Laker players complain about the rim

They did?

It seemed that there was a good number of shots that were in and out, but I just assumed the Lakers' were not accustomed to the court.

[NO-KG-AI]

Anybody see the Laker players complain about the rim

You're kidding right? did they? link....

[wetsthebed]

-= original quote snipped =-



You're kidding right? did they? link....

It was on espn I think. It was subtle complaining though. Like the "the rims were different, and we're not used to them, but we should be able to win with any rims" kind of complaining.

[Ballings7]

ESPN is going to look bad if the Celtics win this series.

[Buck You]

ESPN is going to look bad if the Celtics win this series.

When do they look good?

[Big Bird]

-= original quote snipped =-

In the 2000 Finals he averaged 15.5 and shot 37%. Is that good to you?

I don't know why I'll even bother responding to you, but I generally like to be respectful so here we go.

Why cherry-pick? Why not tell it like it is/was? I never said that was a good performance... he had an okay Game 1, got injured in Game 2 and played very little (hence the drop in stats, he actually averaged 19 ppg in his first trip to the Finals at age 21 if you discount that game; but of course 15.5 ppg it was). He then had the monster OT Game 4 and was the reason his team won (he even hit the gamewinner). He then proceeded to have an abysmal shooting Game and another subpar Game 6. Yeah, it wasn't good, but it wasn't Detroit 2004 bad. Revisionist history is nice, isn't it?

Why not mention the 25/8.6/5.8 2001 Finals against Philly? Oh yeah, my bad, we're only supposed to highlight the bad. Well, he did shot only 42%, that ballhog!

Or perhaps, the 26.8 ppg on 51% in the 2002 Finals... right, bad stuff, I'm sorry.

You know what's funny? How everything is magnified in the Finals. Or how everything Kobe does is magnified for that matter. It's one game. It was a poor game by Kobe. He knows it. Us fans know it. Everyone knows it. No need to jump on him for having the third bad performance of the ENTIRE Playoffs. That's right, 3 out of 16 games he played badly and be assured, every single time after those games we Lakers fans (and everyone else who came into the game threads) were made aware how poorly he performed... of course wrapped into wannabe witty and sarcastic posts. It wasn't "Man, the Lakers got carried by Pau and Odom even though Kobe struggled with his shot." after Game 1 vs. Denver; it was rather "Kobe almost shot his team out of the game.". I think we all know what happened after Game 4 vs. Utah, so I won't touch that one; saying that he milked the injury and wanted to be a hero was the least of it. And now, how fittingly, after a bad game, here we are again. The same people (Miami's Finest for instance) crawl from under their rocks again, delighted that they finally have something to comment about, since Kobe blew it again. Of course it wasn't the missed FTs, Lamar and Pau disappearing again, the rebounding, the stupid fouls that left them in the penalty with 8+ minutes to go in the 4th, the Boston D... no, it was all Kobe, that ballhog (disclaimer: I think he was ONE of the reasons we lost, not the sole perpetrator). That, in a nutshell, is the single reason why I'm defending him here and now, even though I was very disappointed with his performance. Because you people disgust me.

Have a good one, make sure to drop by when he has another great game. Oh, that's right, you usually don't come here on those nights.

(the last 2 paragraphs aren't necessarily directed at you, since you actually weren't that bad if I'm not mistaken, but I'm sure those people know who they are)

cheers

[Miami's Finest]

^^You're absolutely right. Too bad he can't play against the Mavs in the Playoffs, though.

p.s.: I didn't know that 1 bad performance in 4 of the Finals he's been in are Bryant's legacy/past as you put it. Or is 2004 the year you started watching the NBA and don't remember anything else? Or could it be something else... something I can't quite put my finger on... the reason why almost every post you make somehow revolves around Kobe. Tell me, darling, do you have a mancrush on Kobe?

cheers

EDIT: directed at Miami something something or whatshisface.

Calm down new guy. I was referring to when he is a #1 option like the Detroit series and he shot similarly to how he did last night. Like Phil Jackson said in his book, I just don't think the Lakers have a chance to win when it takes him 26 shots to score 24 points but Laker fans will blame the loss on every other player, the rims, even the refs before bringing up the real reason.

[ivDT]

lol @ people thinking the kobe nuthug parade will stop if the lakers lose this series.

[eatyourchildren]

-= original quote snipped =-



Calm down new guy. I was referring to when he is a #1 option like the Detroit series and he shot similarly to how he did last night. Like Phil Jackson said in his book, I just don't think the Lakers have a chance to win when it takes him 26 shots to score 24 points but Laker fans will blame the loss on every other player, the rims, even the refs before bringing up the real reason.

So you're saying that the Lakers don't have a chance to win when Kobe shoots close to 50% on all jumpers and the rest of the guys step up to contribute across the board? Because that scenario fits into your "dire straits" hypothetical, and the Lakers made that a winning formula against the San Antonio Spurs.

It's precisely that you can't differentiate a cause from a symptom that you think that the Lakers' success rides on his points per shot rate.

[Kobay]

Its a sad loss for the lakers. They finally played defense 2 games in a row but foul trouble killed them badly.

[Jordan23Forever]

Any word on Pierce yet? I find it hard to believe that they haven't released the results of his MRI yet. He had to have gotten one.

[eatyourchildren]

Any word on Pierce yet? I find it hard to believe that they haven't released the results of his MRI yet. He had to have gotten one.

Don't think so, but i think everyone's best guess is probably some kind of strained MCL/ACL. I wouldn't be surprised if he took a cortizone shot in the locker room before returning.

The thing is, at this point, would you even want to know if it was a partial tear of some sort?

[eatyourchildren]

From the LATimes, anyone confirm?

The Celtics' physician has told Pierce he has no structural damage, which is as much as he wants to know at present.

"I was scared," said Pierce. "Man, I was scared.

"When you're laying there [with] pain going through your knee, I mean, I see it all the time. I see it in football, baseball, basketball, guys hurt their knees, it's not good.

"Once I felt a sharp pain, you know, I didn't know what to think. The worst came to mind.

"And it still could be worse. . . . I mean, I'm not planning on getting an MRI until after the season so I mean, it could be bad. But right now I'm just getting treatments and see how I feel on Sunday."

[NO-KG-AI]

^^ I think they said he did take a shot before he returned, and he's going to play..... His leg would have to be off, if it's even hanging by some loose skin, the Truth will play.

[garcia3]

-= original quote snipped =-

In the 2000 Finals he averaged 15.5 and shot 37%. Is that good to you?

I don't know why I'll even bother responding to you, but I generally like to be respectful so here we go.

Why cherry-pick? Why not tell it like it is/was? I never said that was a good performance... he had an okay Game 1, got injured in Game 2 and played very little (hence the drop in stats, he actually averaged 19 ppg in his first trip to the Finals at age 21 if you discount that game; but of course 15.5 ppg it was). He then had the monster OT Game 4 and was the reason his team won (he even hit the gamewinner). He then proceeded to have an abysmal shooting Game and another subpar Game 6. Yeah, it wasn't good, but it wasn't Detroit 2004 bad. Revisionist history is nice, isn't it?

Why not mention the 25/8.6/5.8 2001 Finals against Philly? Oh yeah, my bad, we're only supposed to highlight the bad. Well, he did shot only 42%, that ballhog!

Or perhaps, the 26.8 ppg on 51% in the 2002 Finals... right, bad stuff, I'm sorry.

You know what's funny? How everything is magnified in the Finals. Or how everything Kobe does is magnified for that matter. It's one game. It was a poor game by Kobe. He knows it. Us fans know it. Everyone knows it. No need to jump on him for having the third bad performance of the ENTIRE Playoffs. That's right, 3 out of 16 games he played badly and be assured, every single time after those games we Lakers fans (and everyone else who came into the game threads) were made aware how poorly he performed... of course wrapped into wannabe witty and sarcastic posts. It wasn't "Man, the Lakers got carried by Pau and Odom even though Kobe struggled with his shot." after Game 1 vs. Denver; it was rather "Kobe almost shot his team out of the game.". I think we all know what happened after Game 4 vs. Utah, so I won't touch that one; saying that he milked the injury and wanted to be a hero was the least of it. And now, how fittingly, after a bad game, here we are again. The same people (Miami's Finest for instance) crawl from under their rocks again, delighted that they finally have something to comment about, since Kobe blew it again. Of course it wasn't the missed FTs, Lamar and Pau disappearing again, the rebounding, the stupid fouls that left them in the penalty with 8+ minutes to go in the 4th, the Boston D... no, it was all Kobe, that ballhog (disclaimer: I think he was ONE of the reasons we lost, not the sole perpetrator). That, in a nutshell, is the single reason why I'm defending him here and now, even though I was very disappointed with his performance. Because you people disgust me.

Have a good one, make sure to drop by when he has another great game. Oh, that's right, you usually don't come here on those nights.

(the last 2 paragraphs aren't necessarily directed at you, since you actually weren't that bad if I'm not mistaken, but I'm sure those people know who they are)

cheers

OWNED

[TheMartian]

-= original quote snipped =-



Don't think so, but i think everyone's best guess is probably some kind of strained MCL/ACL. I wouldn't be surprised if he took a cortizone shot in the locker room before returning.

The thing is, at this point, would you even want to know if it was a partial tear of some sort?

I think they've diagnosed it as a stained meniscus.

[213]

Lakers take game 2. That's it.