Arenas or Baron?

Mylie10 · Post #1 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:28 am

Who would you rather have beside Monta?

If neither, then list.

BROWN · Post #2 » by **BROWN** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:31 am

Arenas, he's younger and a harder work ethic, and he can shoot better than baron.

Post #3 » by **FNQ** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:35 am

Preferably neither. But if between Baron/Arenas, no brainer Arenas. Yes he chucks, but he also makes more shots.

We wont get Gil though. He will cost too much and we shouldnt offer him that kind of money either... it should only go to a PF/C.

Mylie10 · Post #4 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:43 am

510Reggae wrote:Preferably neither. But if between Baron/Arenas, no brainer Arenas. Yes he chucks, but he also makes more shots.

We wont get Gil though. He will cost too much and we shouldnt offer him that kind of money either... it should only go to a PF/C.

Agreed on Gil. I'd take him if the money was right.

GSW2K4 · Post #5 » by **GSW2K4** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:10 am

I wouldn't pay for either to play alongside Monta...

Both good players, neither can get past the second round after a few tries and can't seem to accept playing second fiddle...

I'd be happier getting Rush to put next to Monta in the future and letting the young team develop together...

GswStorm3 · Post #6 » by **GswStorm3** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:43 am

I'll take Baron, at least he gets his teammates involved. Gilbert just wants to get his and ignore his teammates.

Coincidence Washington played better team ball without Gil?

Eleutherios · Post #7 » by **Eleutherios** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:37 pm

Neither.

I'd be happier getting Rush to put next to Monta in the future and letting the young team develop together...

Yes

NbdyBeatsTheWiz · Post #8 » by **NbdyBeatsTheWiz** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:06 pm

Night Angel 1 wrote:I'll take Baron, at least he gets his teammates involved. Gilbert just wants to get his and ignore his teammates.

Coincidence Washington played better team ball without Gil?

Coincidence a player like Larry Hughes has a borderline All-star season playing next to Arenas before fading into obscurity again playing alongside Lebron James?

Coincidence Butler and Jamison have the first All-star seasons of their careers playing alongside Arenas?

I'm not even voting against Baron, I'm just saying it sounds like some of you guys watch as much Gilbert as I do Baron- not a whole lot.

crzy · Post #9 » by **crzy** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:52 pm

I'd kill for a Gilbert-Monta backcourt.

Left*My*Heart · Post #10 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:20 pm

I say "other". I want a SG with handles next to Monta, not a chucker or a tremendous knucklehead combo guard.

Post #11 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:21 pm

I'm the koolaid drinking homer fan with poorly researched opinions who voted for Baron.

Chris Cohan · Post #12 » by **Chris Cohan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:41 pm

Wow, Baron has a whopping 1/3 of the board's support, dead even with Arenas and nobody.

Better start voting, homers.
Maybe you can keep him in town for more than a year.

GSWhoopfan · Post #13 » by **GSWhoopfan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:59 pm

Arenas and Baron together would be insane and downright nasty. I'd love to get both. I'd package Monta and Al in a S&T with a heartbeat. Monta is great and all but defensive liabilty is he. Monta will be a monster in the next couple of years too.

GswStorm3 · Post #14 » by **GswStorm3** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:12 pm

NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Coincidence a player like Larry Hughes has a borderline All-star season playing next to Arenas before fading into obscurity again playing alongside Lebron James?

Coincidence Butler and Jamison have the first All-star seasons of their careers playing alongside Arenas?

I'm not even voting against Baron, I'm just saying it sounds like some of you guys watch as much Gilbert as I do Baron- not a whole lot.

I can't believe you're using Larry Hughes as a measuring stick who was entering a contract year that season.

Also Butler and Jamision had all star caliber season's this year without Arenas.

Post #15 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:31 pm

I tilted the scales (probably briefly) to Baron. Baron and Arenas have a lot in common. Baron is a better passer/distributer (at least when he puts his mind to it). Arenas is a better scorer. They both have the same shortcomings: they can focus on their own offense to the detriment of the team as a whole, and they are both injury risks. So I'd stick with Baron for two reasons:
- Making a lateral move like that would not necessarily help, and would change/disrupt things. If Baron starts bitching that he doesn't want to be here, that would obviously change matters, as I'm largely suggesting that you don't disrupt chemistry for a lateral move.
- Baron has one more year left on a big deal. Arenas will be looking for a bunch more years on a big deal. I'd rather have Baron stay around one more year while Monta gets one more year of growth as a passer, then have the flexibility to see where Monta has gotten to, see what we need, and have the cap flexibility to actually try to get what we need.

Sid the Squid · Post #16 » by **Sid the Squid** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:32 pm

crzyyafrican wrote:I'd kill for a Gilbert-Monta backcourt.

Chris Cohan · Post #17 » by **Chris Cohan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:36 pm

I voted under the assumption that the question was "who would you rather pay for six years to play next to Monta" since the most likely scenario has neither Baron or Arenas as a Warrior after this season.

The "other" category is a given reality, I believe, so I didn't spend much time thinking about it.

I'll take the guy who can average 30/6/5 and is tailor-made for the Nelson offense.

killacalijatt · Post #18 » by **killacalijatt** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:46 pm

Id rather have Iggy or Smoove runnin with monta

Chris Cohan · Post #19 » by **Chris Cohan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:48 pm

Monta is not going anywhere.

Post #20 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:05 pm

ROWELL wrote:I voted under the assumption that the question was "who would you rather pay for six years to play next to Monta" since the most likely scenario has neither Baron or Arenas as a Warrior after this season.

The "other" category is a given reality, I believe, so I didn't spend much time thinking about it.

I'll take the guy who can average 30/6/5 and is tailor-made for the Nelson offense.

Ah. That's different than how I interpreting things. If I was picking for the next 6 years, I'd probably pick Other. But that's boring :-)