SportsWorld wrote:Here in Illinois College Football SUCKS.
So I root for Michigan.
GO BIG BLUE.
Don't you dare talk bad about Juice Williams.
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Scoot McGroot wrote:I'm honestly curious on this, and not trying to stir up any hatred here. I apologize if this takes over the thread, and if it does, maybe we could just split it into a new thread to not detract from the original intent of the thread.
KingInExile wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
For me it is the unjustified over-rating that ND constantly gets. They could come off a 3-8 season and still find themselves ranked in the top 25 at the beginning of the next season for no good reason. They also tend to get preferential treatment just because of their "history". Case in point is 2001 when they went 9-3 and finished the season ranked #11, but they still leapfrogged over teams like K-state and Nebraska for a BCS bowl bid for no apparent reason other than that they were Notre Dame. I enjoyed that fact that Oregon State squished them in that game, but I would have rather the Beavs played a team that legitimately should have been there.
I will also say that there is some arrogance in their fan base, especially from the ones that buy off on media hype ND is given every year. Going back again to the 2001 Fiesta bowl, I remember hearing from many ND fans that felt they were absolutely entitled to a BCS bowl bid, even if their record didn't reflect it. Those same fans also arrogantly believed that Oregon State would not be able to compete with them. Yes, every team will have homer fans that will deliver the hype and loyalty without question. However, it just seems to me that ND has a disproportionate amount of those types of fans...which is freaking annoying.
Scoot McGroot wrote:I'm really not quite understanding the hate for the Irish. Is it just the winning? Is it because they don't operate like any other football program/school? Is it because of the fans?
I mean, I hate the Yankees and the Red Sox, mostly because of fan interactions with lifelong fans of those two teams. It's so easy to find out that the annoying ND fans have only been fans of them since the day they enrolled at ND and flew to South Bend from New York or LA. Anywhere else in the country where ND is THE Catholic University, ND fans are respectful and noble. I've never seen ND fans at ND games call out any other fans, but I've had USC fans call my mother a bi**h with my father and I standing right in between them (my mother doesn't quite understand football and was asking a question of us). I've never seen ND fans act the way Michigan, OSU, or Purdue fans treat opposing fans.
I'm honestly curious on this, and not trying to stir up any hatred here. I apologize if this takes over the thread, and if it does, maybe we could just split it into a new thread to not detract from the original intent of the thread.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:My problem with USC and ND is that they always seem to get a bowl bid or a high ranking just because.
USC was considered for the National championship, even with a few really bad losses, and that just isn't right IMO.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:USC fans are just a**holes. Try sitting in the thick of them during college basketball games (as I did in their first tournament game against Arkansas). They annoyed the f**k out of me and their cheers are bad.
And I hate their football team too.
Scoot McGroot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Check out the BCS regulations that they agreed to with ND. I know there was a lot of argument that ND didn't deserve to be in the BCS over Oregon against Ohio State, but ND was an automatic qualifier that year. They may have been back against Oregan State as well.
KingInExile wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Well, this ties into my dislike of the BCS system. But that dislike aside, the fact that they do have such an agreement just bolsters my opinion of them getting preferential treatment...they have that agreement just because they are Notre Dame.
Scoot McGroot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Oh, I've sat surrounded by them at Notre Dame stadium. I'm sorry, but I had one honest, funny, and nice guy sitting behind me, and then a bunch of rude, elitist, spiteful and mean people surrounding us. I was there with my mother and father, both quiet game watchers, and my cousin and his wife and daughter. My cousin is one of the nicest people I've ever met. A prototypical guy that will always build other around him up, and has never broken anyone down.
At the end of the game, after USC fans had already given up hope before 4th and 9, they ran around, claiming they always knew USC was better than ND, and calling my mother names. One 40 year old man quickly saw that he had made a dear mistake, and might have to pay for it. He tried running down the stairway, but it was packed, and my dad caught him quickly. I saw the fear of Jesus come into this idiot's eyes as my dad whispered quietly into his ear, and the man apologized to my mother, and ran down the stairs.
This was just one example of their fans in the stadium. Outside the stadium, they were fine. It was old friends all around, cracking light-hearted jokes about each other, but when it came to the game, they got downright rude and nasty, and built a horrible name for themselves.