On Kwame Brown being helped by Kidd, I wouldn't want to find out...
On the Bass plus fillers for Miller trade, I have always liked Mike Miller and trust me at SG he would answer a lot of questions. We would be left with a new question though, "who's going to back up Dirk?" I can deal with that though...
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Showcasing Bass and preparing for his possible departure...
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JES12 wrote:#19? 16? 22?
You joking?
Bass is 22yo and coming off the 1st year he was able to get his feet wet...virtually a rookie...younger than Josh when we drafted him.
Bass had 8.3 PPG on 50% FG%, 82% FT%, decent defense and 4.4 reb...all in less than 20 MPG.
Name me 1 person in this year's draft besides Durant and Hortford that can claim that? You may be able to find some comparable like Scola if he had better FT% and wasn't almost 30. Mabye Conley if he had played more games (switching assist & rebound due to position. Maybe Oden if he wasn't injured and on his way to being the next Michael Olowakandi.
But there is not one other person in last year's draft I would trade Bass for past Conley. Not Yi. Not Noah. Not Green. Not Brewer. Not B. Wright. Not J. Wright. Not Hawes (well, maybe Hawes). Not Law. Not Young. Not even Thornton. None of them achieved what Bass did in his first year.
I would not trade Bass for anything pass 4 this year either as this year's draft is NOT better than last years.
Thad Young is better than Bass. He was 19 years old this past season. Now whether YOU would trade Bass for Young is a different story. But Thad is hands down the better NBA prospect he shot .539%fg in 21 minutes. When Thad turns 22 yrs in June of 2010 he might have just finished a season where he made an All Star appearance. Bass at 22 is still a bench player in the NBA and was cut by another NBA team for being a bum.
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I don't care if Scott is coach of the year, he's a schmuck. He buries talented players (JR Smith, Bass) on his roster because of stupid stuff. He let Bass go for nothing. Bass was not a bum on the Hornets, the coach painted that picture and it was a fallacy. Bass is one of the hardest working Mavs players around, how could he have ever been a bum in OKC with the Hornets?
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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JES12 wrote:But there is not one other person in last year's draft I would trade Bass for past Conley. Not Yi. Not Noah. Not Green. Not Brewer. Not B. Wright. Not J. Wright. Not Hawes (well, maybe Hawes). Not Law. Not Young. Not even Thornton. None of them achieved what Bass did in his first year.
I would not trade Bass for anything pass 4 this year either as this year's draft is NOT better than last years.
Let's not get too excited about Bass. Yeah, I think the dude is talented like everyone else, but he still has a long way to go before he can get starters minutes. I've watched the guy play and he spaces sometimes, and just floats around the court like he was daydreaming. That's why Avery only put him in for 20 minutes per game.
And saying that you wouldn't trade Bass for Oden is just f-ing crazy. Yeah, I know you didn't say it, but it sounded like you did by saying Oden is the next Olawakandi.
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I don't get everyone's love for Mike Miller. He can shoot, yeah, but so can Terry and Dirk.
We don't need another shooter to play the 2 spot. Plus, Mike Miller isn't even a 2, he's 6'8" 230 pounds. That's a small forward. And we already have Josh playing the 3.
Mavs need more players like Bass. Inside. Inside. And Inside again.
I was watching the Lakers-Celtics 1984 Finals Series last week and almost every shot made was inside. Inside by Bird. Inside by McHale. Inside by Parish. Inside by Kareem. The only guy taking outside shots was Dennis Johnson.
We don't need another shooter to play the 2 spot. Plus, Mike Miller isn't even a 2, he's 6'8" 230 pounds. That's a small forward. And we already have Josh playing the 3.
Mavs need more players like Bass. Inside. Inside. And Inside again.
I was watching the Lakers-Celtics 1984 Finals Series last week and almost every shot made was inside. Inside by Bird. Inside by McHale. Inside by Parish. Inside by Kareem. The only guy taking outside shots was Dennis Johnson.
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scramm wrote:I don't get everyone's love for Mike Miller. He can shoot, yeah, but so can Terry and Dirk.
We don't need another shooter to play the 2 spot. Plus, Mike Miller isn't even a 2, he's 6'8" 230 pounds. That's a small forward. And we already have Josh playing the 3.
Those who can play the 2 can play the 3 just as well and vice versa. Miller is a freak and he's sic! He would be the piece to put us over the top (after trading Howard and Bass and filler for another better-running GF)...
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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Those who can play the 2 can play the 3 just as well and vice versa. Miller is a freak and he's sic! He would be the piece to put us over the top (after trading Howard and Bass and filler for another better-running GF)...
I like Miller in the right situation. I'd like to see him with Marion or Artest at the SF.
I wouldn't say that he would put us over the top but is a player that we may be able to add without giving up Dirk, Kidd, or Howard.
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scramm wrote:I don't get everyone's love for Mike Miller. He can shoot, yeah, but so can Terry and Dirk.
We don't need another shooter to play the 2 spot. Plus, Mike Miller isn't even a 2, he's 6'8" 230 pounds. That's a small forward. And we already have Josh playing the 3.
Mavs need more players like Bass. Inside. Inside. And Inside again.
I was watching the Lakers-Celtics 1984 Finals Series last week and almost every shot made was inside. Inside by Bird. Inside by McHale. Inside by Parish. Inside by Kareem. The only guy taking outside shots was Dennis Johnson.
I don't think that it is a love for Miller as much as it is that he is probably one of the best players available that we could possibly procure without giving up Howard. I agree that he is more of a SF but he does have size and Howard could actually be considered the 2. That doesn't really matter because he plays like a SG and is what I would call a poor man's Paul Pierce. Doesn't have the athleticism or skills (especially defensively) that Pierce has but is very aggressive at getting his own shot. I love his aggressive style of game and think he would improve our starting lineup.
Bass, George (S&T 5M for 1 year), and Jones would be a nice trade for Miller imo.
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I don't think that it is a love for Miller as much as it is that he is probably one of the best players available that we could possibly procure without giving up Howard. I agree that he is more of a SF but he does have size and Howard could actually be considered the 2. That doesn't really matter because he plays like a SG and is what I would call a poor man's Paul Pierce. Doesn't have the athleticism or skills (especially defensively) that Pierce has but is very aggressive at getting his own shot. I love his aggressive style of game and think he would improve our starting lineup.
Bass, George (S&T 5M for 1 year), and Jones would be a nice trade for Miller imo.
Give up our only banger down low, for another jump shooter on an already jump shooting type of team. Yeah thats a smart move

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Give up our only banger down low, for another jump shooter on an already jump shooting type of team. Yeah thats a smart move
Yes...a starting veteran (in his prime) SG with some size is much more important to this team than a backup for our best player.
Besides, Bass puts up about as many jump shots during a game as shots in the paint.
What is not smart is having a good backup PF while having major holes at SG and backup center. Damp needs a backup more than Dirk and we have needed a starting SG since Fin left. And another stupid thing is having Bass playing center.
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Having a quality starting SG is much more important than having a backup PF/C. With Diop possibly returning, Bass' minutes would be decreasing. Better to have a deal in hand with Diop and deal Bass without losing our bargaining position...
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...