Kaman Or Brand

Adam1221 · Post #21 » by **Adam1221** » Sat Jun 7, 2008 7:58 pm

I'd be happy with both however Thorn should really try to get one of them without including RJ, Im sure that some package with M.Williams(a great talent that's just being wasted here) the 2 first round picks (will give them 3 first round picks including to top 10 lottery one's), Swift,KVH and maybe throw in Neand if they want him.

Just the thoughts of this lineup gives me orgasm

Harris/Vince/Darrel Armstrong(and if he goes than another FA)
Vince/Boki/Hassel
RJ/Boki
Elton Brand/Sean Williams/Josh Boone
Josh Boone/Elton Brand/Diop(and like D.A if he wants to go than another FA)

Man only a terrible terrible coach can ruin such an awesome lineup...........Wait a minute NOOOOOOOOO!

TheGrowth · Post #22 » by **TheGrowth** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 3:56 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:Actually when you look at that squad, the defense isnt that bad it is kind of balanced.

Harris - Perimeter D
Barbosa - can steal
RJ - His D will come back
Diaw - Not sure
S.Will - Blocking and Defensive Rebounding

This team is worse than the present one. There's a reason why the Suns are trying to get rid of Diaw.

Harris/Vince/Darrel Armstrong(and if he goes than another FA)
Vince/Boki/Hassel
RJ/Boki
Elton Brand/Sean Williams/Josh Boone
Josh Boone/Elton Brand/Diop(and like D.A if he wants to go than another FA)

I think Diop is a goner

S.I.C. GM · Post #23 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 4:35 pm

Serpo wrote: I think Diaw's inconsistancy and Barbosa's mentally weakness and bad d are on of the bigger reasons for Phoenix failure in the last years.

Don't like these two at all .They're just nice role players that fit nice in D'Antonis system . I first want to see them how they do with a new coach because i don't think they're that good.

I dont see how you can blame Phoenix's failure to those two guys. They play off the bench. I blame Phoenix's failure on the coach. No way the Spurs should beat you with those guys in the post. Second, They played NO DEFENSE. With those two guys, NO ONE should be coming into the paint. So to blame it on those guys is kinda off.

Serpo wrote:Why do you think Phoenix like to trade thm now ? Obviosly they're not sold on these two without D'Antoni as well and try to trade them before they get most likely get exposed in another system.

This doesnt make sense. This isnt the only reason why people are traded. Some on this board wants to trade RJ. From what some people say, it isnt mostly about his play but he is the best bargaining chip. So your statement actually might be the opposite.

TheGrowth wrote:There's a reason why the Suns are trying to get rid of Diaw.

Yeah he isnt great. His contract isnt great either, but I like barbosa. If diaw has to be included to get barbosa I would do it.

Serpo · Post #24 » by **Serpo** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 5:00 pm

The Suns go 7-8 deep and Diaw and Barbosa sucked alot in important games , especially Barbosa . If you can go 10 deep you can have two bad playing bench players but not when you're 7 deep .

Diaw is inconsitent but if his contract would be 5-6 Million I would take him. Barbosa ? He really disapprears completely when it matters most.

mack69 · Post #25 » by **mack69** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 3:19 am

Off on a tangent!!!!!!! Kaman would be a better fit for us if you are planning for 2010.

MrDollarBills · Post #26 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 1:58 pm

A Barbosa/Harris backcourt is a recipe for disaster.

mack69 · Post #27 » by **mack69** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 2:42 pm

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Anthing to get Vince out of town!

EFF · Post #28 » by **EFF** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 5:59 pm

forget diaw. dont need any more mediocrity.
kaman is too injury prone to be useful.

S.I.C. GM · Post #29 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 9:23 pm

mack69 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Anthing to get Vince out of town!

Atleast I am trying.

Some people on this board think he is our future. If he doesnt get traded, after this contract it is over.

mack69 · Post #30 » by **mack69** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 10:03 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Atleast I am trying.

Some people on this board think he is our future. If he doesnt get traded, after this contract it is over.

What do you mean it is over?

MrDollarBills · Post #31 » by **MrDollarBills** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:05 pm

Uh doesn't Carter's contract expire in 2010??

Preludepunk27 · Post #32 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:21 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Uh doesn't Carter's contract expire in 2010??

Nope. His contract is through the 2010-2011 season with a team option for the 2011-2012 season.

S.I.C. GM · Post #33 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:30 pm

mack69 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What do you mean it is over?

No more a NET.

Dexmor · Post #34 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:09 pm

Kristic will come back strong and Williams can play the Center spot and become a really good player. Maybe not offensively but he can be bigtime shotblocker or be like a Chandler.

Preludepunk27 · Post #35 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:17 pm

Dexmor wrote:Kristic will come back strong and Williams can play the Center spot and become a really good player. Maybe not offensively but he can be bigtime shotblocker or be like a Chandler.

I always imagine Williams developing into a Marcus Camby with a slightly better offensive game (at least at the free throw line i'm praying). You do realize it took a while for Chandler to be as solid as he is now. I don't think we're gonna wait that long for S-Will. If he has 4 OK years, I think we'll try to do an S&T to the highest bidder if that was the case. I have a lot of faith though that he'll be a solid player by his 3rd season.

Dexmor · Post #36 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:08 pm

The best pf they can get for RJ is Odom and that is a good option. I think it is better then Barbosa and Diaw because Diaw is kind of a joke. Is he gonna be a 15 point a game guy or a 4 point a game guy?

Preludepunk27 · Post #37 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:44 pm

Dexmor wrote:The best pf they can get for RJ is Odom and that is a good option. I think it is better then Barbosa and Diaw because Diaw is kind of a joke. Is he gonna be a 15 point a game guy or a 4 point a game guy?

I'd rather take a shot on Charlie V or something.

Again, getting Odom for RJ makes us no better than we already are...which is a lottery team.

Right now we're shopping Stro like he's an iPhone 3G before it hits the market hoping we can land someone of substance with a manageable contract and not having to give up RJ. I know we can't get a elite PF for RJ, but that also means we're not gonna trade RJ just for the sake of trading for a PF. Trading RJ is a last ditch effort if we are dead set on trading.