NBA Finals: Boston vs. LA Lakers - Series BOS leads (2-0)

[Bgil]

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It very well may have been a good decision, but Kobe guarding Rondo doesn't cause players like Pierce and KG to play like total scrubs on the offensive end and it isn't going to happen again no matter who Kobe is guarding. Kobe was great and Boston just didn't have it tonight.

It'll happen to KG a ton because he can't penetrate. Lots of teams have used that strategy against him before. Push him out of the post so his 8 foot turnarounds become 15 foot turnarounds. That's pretty much the scouting report on KG and Phil used the same strategy against him in 2004.

Pierce was suffering from a similar problem although his foul trouble had just as much to do with it.

It's stupid to deny the affect it had on the game because the commentors were talking about it all game long and Doc was obviously trying to combat the strategy with Eddie House. Not to mention that the House strategy was rather successful during various part of the game. In fact, the Celts played their best offense with house on the floor.

[LakerFanMan]

KG and PP had bad games, so did Gasol and Odom, it's a wash.

How about that Kobe guy though? He's not even a finals player.

[tracey_nice]

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I've been watching KG for a decade. This has nothing to do with Doc Rivers. Nothing.

What was wrong with how Kg was playing in Minny, at least when the team was descent?

[NO-KG-AI]

KG and PP had bad games, so did Gasol and Odom, it's a wash.

How about that Kobe guy though? He's not even a finals player.

LOL, yea, BRINGTHEPAIN is MIA.

[TommyPoints]

Eddie House is not the answer full time. We'll see who is right after the next game, but Pierce and KG had plenty of opportunities and just played poorly this game. It happens. I think leaving Eddie in had more to do with how poorly those 2 were shooting.

[Jonathan Watters]

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KG plays however Doc rivers tells him to, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron. Doc said himself "I told Kevin, be aggressive, when you have an open shot, take the jumper."

And it just happened that Flip and Dwayne Casey had similarly self-destructive philosophies. Sure, just a coincidence...

Should he play in the post more? Sure, but he's had coaches who want to utilize his game all around, and make him mix it up, it's not like doc runs the post up play every time and KG just runs away from it... he runs the pick and pop to get KG an open jumper.... should he not take it?

Man, why can't you just read what I post. I'm not saying anything about him not taking open jumpers. But in a pick and roll/pop, when the "roll" option leaves you wide open in the lane, you darn well better be rolling. Which KG hasn't in this situation, over and over again in the playoffs.

When you are 7'1, and you've got a 6'9 guy on you who can neither block your hook shot or cut you off on a drive, you better not be resorting to some pansy fadeaway.

But this is what Garnett does.

And it is selfish.

He took some bad shots tonight, it happens, he's far from selfish, get over it.

For the type of shots he could and "should" be taking, he's been taking terrible shots his entire career.

This is a fact.

Get over it.

[Don Draper]

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Once again, you are confusing being a ballhog with being selfish. There are ways to be selfish other than being a ballhog. I mentioned this an hour ago, but you chose not to respond. Are you having troubling comprehending the idea?

But I'll humor you anyways.

I think Nash tries harder on defense than KG does at sacrificing his preferred way of playing for the betterment of his team. Especially since Nash at his best is still a poor defender, and Garnett at his best is an unstoppable force the likes of which the league has never seen before...

A Steve Nash is so horrible on D you can't even tell if he is trying.

Let me ask you this. Have you not thought that maybe Doc Rivers tells him to play this way?

You are mistaking tendencies, poor coaching, and un-aggressiveness for selfishness.

[celticfan42487]

Good game overall. Lakers continue to impress with the multitude of players that can knock down a 3 ball from all over the court.

These teams are so diffrent yet both are so effective.

Felt like Game 1 of the series to me with opposite result.

[Don Draper]

Man, why can't you just read what I post. I'm not saying anything about him not taking open jumpers. But in a pick and roll/pop, when the "roll" option leaves you wide open in the lane, you darn well better be rolling. Which KG hasn't in this situation, over and over again in the playoffs.

When you are 7'1, and you've got a 6'9 guy on you who can neither block your hook shot or cut you off on a drive, you better not be resorting to some pansy fadeaway.

But this is what Garnett does.

And it is selfish.

1) Hakeem did fadeways all day. KG can hit that shot.

2) When did KG grow 2 inches?

[tracey_nice]

Jon Watters, it sounds more like your questioning Kg's intelligence, more then his selflessness.

[Jonathan Watters]

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What was wrong with how Kg was playing in Minny, at least when the team was descent?

He was a good/great player in Minny. Like I said, top 5-10 over the course of his career.

Just not even close to as effective as he could have been.

All because he's allergic to the paint on the offensive end. You saw it tonight - whenever he wanted to take the ball to the basket, it was his. Nobody even close to stopping the guy. Why can't he do this all the time? Why does a 7-foot athletic freak resort to absurdly complex, difficult fadeaways on half his shots when he could be much more dangerous facing up and driving or simply going to his darn near perfect jump hook?

Its baffling, and it will taint his legacy whether or not some of his blinded fans can't see it quite yet.

[Bgil]

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Boston looked good against Detroit. Ginobili was terrible and that was the only reason they beat the Spurs. Now they're beating an injured Celtics team. Utah's defense looked atrocious against the Lakers. The refs certainly helped as well. I'm not very impressed by the Lakers at all, and am very confident the Celtics take the series.

Boston looked horrible against Atlanta and Cleveland. Billups and Hamilton were hurt and that was the only reason they beat Detroit. Now their playing an injured Laker team (Kobe, Fisher, Bynum). The refs are in the C's back pocket. I'm not impressed by the Celtics at all.

[Jonathan Watters]

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1) Hakeem did fadeways all day. KG can hit that shot.

2) When did KG grow 2 inches?

Hakeem didn't "do" fadeaways like KG's. His game was much more post-oriented. If you don't see this, you didn't watch much of Hakeem.

And it is well known that KG is taller than his listed height. He's told people he doesn't change it because he doesn't want to be known as a center. Hmm...

[LakerFanMan]

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LOL, yea, BRINGTHEPAIN is MIA.

lol, must be sick, how convenient....

[NO-KG-AI]

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Well Flip did have the same idea, he used KG in the post even less than Doc did... by the time Dwyane Casey got there, things were wacked out offensively, but he was a little better than flip, but he didn't last long. Also during Casey's time, there wasn't a guard capable of running anything, it was throwing the ball to KG and letting him create from 18 feet, because they couldn't execute an entry pass.

Flip was even worse than Doc in this regard, by far.

He could definitely roll to the basket more, I agree there, but even still, Rondo misses a lot of those easy rolls, like 90%, they run the pick and roll, and Rondo does his patented spin into the pull out move.

[eatyourchildren]

Finally, a free throw discrepancy that goes LA's way. And you know what, even though they shot 62%, it goes a long way (foul trouble causes a defense to play a lot softer).

But here's the thing. Odom and Pau played a lot softer today than they did Game 2. A LOT softer. But people are going to say the Lakers played a lot more aggressive to deserve the free throws because Kobe got more aggressive.

On the whole, the Lakers were not more aggressive in game 3 than they were in game 2. I'm still waiting for Odom and Pau to show up for a full game. Jesus

[semi-sentient]

Good game overall. Lakers continue to impress with the multitude of players that can knock down a 3 ball from all over the court.

These teams are so diffrent yet both are so effective.

Felt like Game 1 of the series to me with opposite result.

I was thinking the same thing. If this series goes to 7, it's going to go down as a real classic. All 3 games have been winnable late by either team, and I don't see that changing in this series.

[TommyPoints]

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Boston look horrible against Atlanta and Cleveland. Billups and Hamilton were hurt and that was the only reason they beat Detroit. Now their playing an injured Laker team (Kobe, Fisher, Bynum). The refs are in the C's back pocket. I'm not impressed by the Celtics at all.

Are you serious? The refs were pretty decent overall, but if anything favored LA tonight so give that a rest. Boston's big 3 scored 44 points and that was basically Ray Allen. If you think Kobe on Rondo is going to cause that to happen again then you are wrong. Boston didn't play a great game and LA got the better of them. Not impressed with the C's? Really?

Typo: didn't mean 16 points. lol

[LakerFanMan]

On the whole, the Lakers were not more aggressive in game 3 than they were in game 2. I'm still waiting for Odom and Pau to show up for a full game. Jesus

Odom and Gasol had by far their worst game of the series. They played terrible. At least Odom was trying though. Gasol was literally just standing there more then half the time. They must have missed 10 dunks/layups between them.

Luckily, PP and KG had bad nights.

[Celtsfan1980]

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Only because Rondo scored on a couple broken plays and hit the rare jumpshot. The chances of those things happening consistently were slim to none... as you saw in the next 3 quarters.

The stat I had read said that Rondo has hit 37% of his jumpers this season. I don't see how it's all that rare.