OT: Spike Lee

[campybatman]

This question is probably better asked toward the New York fans. But, I don't post on other boards.

Why has Lee seemingly aligned himself with Los Angeles if he's a long time Knicks fan? It doesn't make any sense because I would think you never root for a different team just because your team is absent from the playoffs or has lost during it. My guess is that Lee hates the Celtics that much that he'll support the other team purely to stick it to Boston and hope for their failure. What a piece of work he is. Wow. I understand that basketball fans and celebrities have gotten swept up in the Boston/Los Angeles rivalry during the playoffs. But, come on...

Personally, I would never stoop as low as Lee. Honestly, I don't hate any franchises. No, I really dislike specific players and head coaches in the NBA. Moreover, I root for one professional basketball team and no other. If Boston isn't there... Then I can handle that. I don't bandwagon. Being a band wagoner when it pertains to sports is just not my thing. I mean you can like and follow players in the NBA you're a fan of that aren't on your team. That's normal. However, I doubt it's as simple as this of Lee. OK, you're a Kobe Bryant fan to the extent that you'll travel to Los Angeles if you don't live in California for a playoffs game. I don't know, perhaps he was given the ticket or he in fact resides in or near to the city. Still, don't you agree that this messed up or kind of odd? No way am I giving Lee the benefit of the doubt, though. Because he's supposed to be a New York Knicks loyalist.

The reality is: People that follow basketball are jealous and despise the Boston Celtics this season. They loathe their rich tradition and championship history. [I almost sound like I'm talking about the Yankees.]

Question to Lee: Do you cheer Kobe Bryant when he's single handily outscoring the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden?

Oh, that Yankees' cap was a nice touch too. I'll give you that. I'm sure you didn't standout at the Staple Center.

[Athanacropolis]

Bonsai, I feel the exact same way. What a frontrunner this guy is! Also: I'm surprised he roots for the Lakers, seeing as how they have several white players on their team.

[MyInsatiableOne]

He roots for the Fakers cos he's a frontrunner and based on Spike Lee's own personal life, probably feels Kobe is a wonderful human being and a kindred spirit.

[amaj10]

Didn't he recently do a movie, or documentary on Kobe? He followed him for a few days, and at a game had something like 19 cameras on Kobe only during the game? Maybe they bonded over that, but I thought the same thing as ya'll when they showed Spike.

[Allanon]

When your team sucks for years and you're a basketball fan, it's time to find a new team or give up basketball. There's no Knick / Laker rivalry like Celtics/Lakers so it's not being a traitor going to the enemy.

Mike Bibby had it right, the Celtic fans now jumped ship after all those years of losing. They're only fans again now because the Celtics are relevant again.

Not to say Boston Celtic fans in particular are weak, it's just that as a fan, you can only take so much losing. Happens to all teams.

Being in showbiz, Spike probably spends more time in LA than any other city so it's only natural for him to pick up the Lakers as the 2nd team. Once the Knicks get LeBron, he'll go back to the Knicks.

[Celtics_Champs]

This question is probably better asked toward the New York fans. But, I don't post on other boards.

Why has Lee seemingly aligned himself with Los Angeles if he's a long time Knicks fan? It doesn't make any sense because I would think you never root for a different team just because your team is absent from the playoffs or has lost during it. My guess is that Lee hates the Celtics that much that he'll support the other team purely to stick it to Boston and hope for their failure. What a piece of work he is. Wow. I understand that basketball fans and celebrities have gotten swept up in the Boston/Los Angeles rivalry during the playoffs. But, come on...

Personally, I would never stoop as low as Lee. Honestly, I don't hate any franchises. No, I really dislike specific players and head coaches in the NBA. Moreover, I root for one professional basketball team and no other. If Boston isn't there... Then I can handle that. I don't bandwagon. Being a band wagoner when it pertains to sports is just not my thing. I mean you can like and follow players in the NBA you're a fan of that aren't on your team. That's normal. However, I doubt it's as simple as this of Lee. OK, you're a Kobe Bryant fan to the extent that you'll travel to Los Angeles if you don't live in California for a playoffs game. I don't know, perhaps he was given the ticket or he in fact resides in or near to the city. Still, don't you agree that this messed up or kind of odd? No way am I giving Lee the benefit of the doubt, though. Because he's supposed to be a New York Knicks loyalist.

The reality is: People that follow basketball are jealous and despise the Boston Celtics this season. They loathe their rich tradition and championship history. [I almost sound like I'm talking about the Yankees.]

Question to Lee: Do you cheer Kobe Bryant when he's single handily outscoring the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden?

Oh, that Yankees' cap was a nice touch too. I'll give you that. I'm sure you didn't standout at the Staple Center.

The answer is in your tag Bonsai, he is a flip flop.

[MyInsatiableOne]

When your team sucks for years and you're a basketball fan, it's time to find a new team or give up basketball. There's no Knick / Laker rivalry like Celtics/Lakers so it's not being a traitor going to the enemy.

Mike Bibby had it right, the Celtic fans now jumped ship after all those years of losing. They're only fans again now because the Celtics are relevant again.

Not to say Boston Celtic fans in particular are weak, it's just that as a fan, you can only take so much losing. Happens to all teams.

Being in showbiz, Spike probably spends more time in LA than any other city so it's only natural for him to pick up the Lakers as the 2nd team. Once the Knicks get LeBron, he'll go back to the Knicks.

Are you serious? I have watched every single **** Celtics game I could the last 22 years since we won in 1986. I am hardcore. I watched nearly every game the last 2 years when we were dreadful. I watched the **** 15-67 season in 1997. And I'm not unique, Celtics fans are hardcore. Even last year the arena was more than half full most nights. We are one of the few fanbases in the country where we watch and go to games even when our teams suck for DECADES (see pre-2003 Red Sox and pre-1993 Patriots, two other teams I have followed rabidly my ENTIRE LIFE). So wrong on both counts.

[ARB729]

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Are you serious? I have watched every single **** Celtics game I could the last 22 years since we won in 1986. I am hardcore. I watched nearly every game the last 2 years when we were dreadful. I watched the **** 15-67 season in 1997. And I'm not unique, Celtics fans are hardcore. Even last year the arena was more than half full most nights. We are one of the few fanbases in the country where we watch and go to games even when our teams suck for DECADES (see pre-2003 Red Sox and pre-1993 Patriots, two other teams I have followed rabidly my ENTIRE LIFE). So wrong on both counts.

Being at the Garden for about 30 games for the 04-05, 05-06, and 06-07 seasons I can honestly say the crowd has never left, and there were some nights when the crowd was 2/3 full. The whole bandwagon notion is bull ****. Honestly, it was just very rough to admit you were a diehard Celts fan the last couple seasons.

But to the OP, yeah I said the same thing when they showed him last night. What an ****.

[Allanon]

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Are you serious? I have watched every single **** Celtics game I could the last 22 years since we won in 1986. I am hardcore. I watched nearly every game the last 2 years when we were dreadful. I watched the **** 15-67 season in 1997. And I'm not unique, Celtics fans are hardcore. Even last year the arena was more than half full most nights. We are one of the few fanbases in the country where we watch and go to games even when our teams suck for DECADES (see pre-2003 Red Sox and pre-1993 Patriots, two other teams I have followed rabidly my ENTIRE LIFE). So wrong on both counts.

Nah, there are fans and then there are hardcore fans. All teams have their hardcore fans. But they are the exception, not the rule.

Half-full on most nights is not something to be proud of. Considering that the Celtics are playing in front of a packed house this year shows that fans have come BACK because the Celtics are good again.

Again this is not just the Celtics, it's with ANY team. Fans leave after their team keeps losing, this year there's easily double the crowd from last year.

So right on both counts.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Except in LA where the fans show up late and leave early (and not just for the Lakers, but the Dodgers, too!)

[15th overall]

Personally, if I was as rich as Spike and had as many connects as he does I'd try to get to as many Finals games as possible. That said I think his hate for all things Boston far outweight any love he may have for Kobe and/or the Lakers.

Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Spike and his buddies are heckling the white guy in the Bird jersey carrying his bike? Theyre following him down the street harassing him, telling him to "Go back to Boston" and then he says he was born in Brooklyn and theyre all appalled. I know that scene is supposed to be a comment on racial relations and everything but I always felt it was a pretty unnecessary/pointless scene... well, now it smells a bit of hypocrisy too.

The man's going soft in his old age.

[Datruth345]

i went to many games when the celtics sucked and there was always a good crowd

the whole front-runner bandwagon **** is ridiculous

and the whole back to being relevant stuff is stupid too the celtics have been in the playoffs 5 of the last 7 years, the media just makes up **** to fill the page, and people that can't think for themselves believe it

but anyways,

spiek lee has always hated the celtics, and he loves kobe thus he is in the staples center supporting the lakers

[MyInsatiableOne]

Personally, if I was as rich as Spike and had as many connects as he does I'd try to get to as many Finals games as possible. That said I think his hate for all things Boston far outweight any love he may have for Kobe and/or the Lakers.

Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Spike and his buddies are heckling the white guy in the Bird jersey carrying his bike? Theyre following him down the street harassing him, telling him to "Go back to Boston" and then he says he was born in Brooklyn and theyre all appalled. I know that scene is supposed to be a comment on racial relations and everything but I always felt it was a pretty unnecessary/pointless scene... well, now it smells a bit of hypocrisy too.

The man's going soft in his old age.

It's no secret Spike Lee is one of the most virulent racists in Hollywood today. He hates whites, Jews, Asians...basically all non-blacks. He, like a lot of others, still think of the Celtics as the "white team" from the 1980s and thus equate all of Boston and anyone from there as such.

All his movies are crap anyway and the verbal beatdown Clint Eastwood gave him last week was both factually accurate and well deserved. "He needs to shut his face" Clint said to Spike...indeed he does!

[campybatman]

Personally, I'm not going to go out of my way to acknowledge a Los Angeles Lakers fan in this thread or else where. I mean you've to know the source of these post. Their fans are apt to speak negatively of the Celtics and their fans no matter what. Ignore them. I don't have a problem if you want to be critical of a certain poster on here, if you're a Lakers poster, but don't generalize. You really come off ignorant for doing so.

If you know you're a real Boston Celtics fan and have followed them whenever you'd decided in your life to follow the Celtics and/or the other local teams. Then don't explain yourself to them. You don't have to. The band wagoners are the ones who get defensive by Lakers fans or what any comments that Mike Bibby has made this year toward Celtics fans. No one likes a band wagoner because it make the real fans look bad. They don't speak for me or you. They stink. They really do. What a shame they exist. There's no place for them, really. Me, I've no choice but to be a Boston Celtics fan. I'm a fan by default. I'm indifferent toward any other NBA team because I was born here and not there. Simply, I believe you support where you're from. I'd always played outside with other kids in the neighborhood as a child. So, I'm not as old school as I would preferred to be. But, I've been following the Celtics long enough to know about the Len Bias tragedy and to know about a young Reggie Lewis. The point is, I wasn't born yesterday as a Celtics fan.

Anyways, I still believe what Lee is doing is disgusting and I would be disgusted by him if I were a New York Knicks fan. Never mind if he's a good director or person or what have you. My gripe toward him is of a specific argument. I guess when I say I only care about the Celtics I actually mean it. I mean I'm someone who would be knocked for being a Boston Celtics fan and not a NBA fan. Why watch teams that you careless about is my question. After awhile, you can only watch a particular player for so long before you get bored watching the game (the Michael Jordan contending Bulls might be the exception for me with him being one of my favorite players) because you've no invested interest in that game. I enjoy rooting for someone. The emotions that evoke inside of you is what drives you as a fan in part. Indifference can make a lot of things in life boring to me. People simply can't understand or want to understand a basketball fan like that. Since when are you supposed to view the playoffs when your team isn't there? You don't... You aren't bitter... No, your team isn't there. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.

[theFRANCHISE]

Bonsai, I feel the exact same way. What a frontrunner this guy is! Also: I'm surprised he roots for the Lakers, seeing as how they have several white players on their team.

Chris Mihm might be the only "white" guy on the lakers other than phil jackson and tex winters

[Taget]

I've been a Celtics fan through good times and bad like most of you. But I will admit if the Celtics aren't involved I have rooted for one team or another.

For example I supportef Indiana back when Byrd was coaching. Probably not alone. He got bigger ovations than the Celtic players when his team came to Boston. I've also gone against any team the Lakers played against since I want to see the Celtics and Red's championship record preserved.

Course in the case of Spike I can't see any reasoning. Maybe he's an Ariza fan.

[celticfan42487]

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Chris Mihm might be the only "white" guy on the lakers other than phil jackson and tex winters

Why? Does Spike becoming a fan automatically make Gasol and Sasha black?

And if so, can someone explain to me wtf happened to sasha's face? There's something just off... I think it's the eyebrows. It's not an alien like Cassell.. no. But it's like he has a human face but Sam's people abducted his mother and impregnated her and now he just has a mix of golem/human features for a face.

[threrf23]

All his movies are crap anyway and the verbal beatdown Clint Eastwood gave him last week was both factually accurate and well deserved. "He needs to shut his face" Clint said to Spike...indeed he does!

Yes. I won't go so far to say all of Spike movie's are crap, he's had some decent ones. But among movies I've watched in recent years, She Hate Me was absolutely horrid and Sucker Free City was full of horrible acting caused by ghetto slang that was so obviously forced by the script rather than being natural.

I respect Clint Eastwood a bit because he's rare in that he's a perfectionist that can actually get away with being a perfectionist when he wants to be. Spike is nowhere near his level as a filmmaker

[spf211]

Spike Lee didn't hold back any disdain for Larry Bird either -- saying a few years ago during the playoffs that he had never heard a player given more accolades, implying that were he not white he would not have been as large a figure in the history of the NBA.

So, knowing the background, I wouldn't expect Spike to align himself with the Celtics -- ever -- and it's no surprise he feels some connection to LA after his time with Kobe.

[campybatman]

So, knowing the background, I wouldn't expect Spike to align himself with the Celtics -- ever -- and it's no surprise he feels some connection to LA after his time with Kobe.

Like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

What's ironic is Ray Allen starred in one of Lee's films. I wonder if Ray respects what Lee's doing. Probably doesn't matter since he's likely unaware of him attending game three with the playoffs solely on his mind right now.

Boston is alone in the NBA world having no allies I would think.