Who's the next Kobe under 23 (not named Lebron)

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Who's the next Kobe under 23 (not named Lebron) 

Post#1 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:29 am

Who is going to be the next dominant perimeter scorer after Kobe Bryant? This isn't limited to NBA players.

I say OJ Mayo. he's is the only guy who has that killer instinct like Kobe.
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Post#2 » by magicfan4life05 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:29 am

maybe Nick Young, that might be a stretch but i think he'll be really good.
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Post#3 » by Icefire10304 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:30 am

Na. He's too short and he doesn't have "explosive" athleticism
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Post#4 » by PopAGat » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:33 am

Closest thing to Kobe Or LeBron thats under 23 ... Hm I'd have to say OJ Mayo.
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Post#5 » by _BBIB_ » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:38 am

Out of this class the most likely guys are Gordon and Mayo.
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Post#6 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:41 am

_BBIB_ wrote:Out of this class the most likely guys are Gordon and Mayo.


Eric Gordon is going to flop. He makes terrible decisions. Doesn't play a lick of defense. He doesn't get up and down the court as well as he should and I think his athleticism is overrated.
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Post#7 » by War3player » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:45 am

How old is Kevin Durant?
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Post#8 » by L&H_05 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:45 am

How does anybody project OJ Mayo's NBA killer instinct prior to his arrival..

If GM's had a notion that OJ Mayo has the potential to be as good as Kobe Bryant, OJ Mayo would be the consensus #1 pick in this draft..
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Post#9 » by T-Spot » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:45 am

No love for Kevin Durant?
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Post#10 » by _BBIB_ » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:45 am

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Eric Gordon is going to flop. He makes terrible decisions. Doesn't play a lick of defense. He doesn't get up and down the court as well as he should and I think his athleticism is overrated.


LOL

His athleticism is overrated?

He's a solidly built 222 pound PG with a 40 inch vert and tested out as one of the best athletes at the pre-draft camp in terms of lane agility and sprinting ability.

He has the ability to slash, finish at the rim, and stretch a defense with a perimeter shot.

Question his defense. But his scoring and athleticism? Don't be absurd.
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Post#11 » by War3player » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:48 am

L&H_05 wrote:How does anybody project OJ Mayo's NBA killer instinct prior to his arrival..

If GM's had a notion that OJ Mayo has the potential to be as good as Kobe Bryant, OJ Mayo would be the consensus #1 pick in this draft..



It would depend how long they would expect Mayo to reach Kobe standards or any where near it.
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Post#12 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:51 am

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LOL

His athleticism is overrated?

He's a solidly built 222 pound PG with a 40 inch vert and tested out as one of the best athletes at the pre-draft camp in terms of lane agility and sprinting ability.

He has the ability to slash, finish at the rim, and stretch a defense with a perimeter shot.

Question his defense. But his scoring and athleticism? Don't be absurd.


Please. Pre-draft camp workouts mean very little. How many IU games did you watch?

I watched plenty and the guy 1) has very poor shot selection 2) if it weren't for him going to the line so much he wouldn't have put up the numbers he did 3) he wont go to line as much in the NBA 4) he played in a super weak conference
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Post#13 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:52 am

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It would depend how long they would expect Mayo to reach Kobe standards or any where near it.


What number was Kobe picked again? Exactly.
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Post#14 » by crowd goes wild » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:56 am

KD

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Post#15 » by War3player » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:59 am

obinna wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What number was Kobe picked again? Exactly.


I'm confused......What exactly does the # Kobe was picked have to do with what I posted which was in response to "Mayo would be the consensus #1 pick if they thought he was the next Kobe"
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Post#16 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:59 am

crowd goes wild wrote:KD

(no bias)


He is very close second.
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Post#17 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:07 am

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I'm confused......What exactly does the # Kobe was picked have to do with what I posted which was in response to "Mayo would be the consensus #1 pick if they thought he was the next Kobe"


My point is an NBA GMs opinion is a) not important in this question b) not that important period

GMs drop the ball all the time. Ask the Raptors and the Bobcats.

Furthermore potential is not the only deciding factor because in that case Gerald Green should have gone #1 in 2005. Team needs also play a huge role.
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Post#18 » by War3player » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:10 am

obinna wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



My point is an NBA GMs opinion is a) not important in this question b) not that important period

GMs drop the ball all the time. Ask the Raptors and the Bobcats.

Furthermore potential is not the only deciding factor because in that case Gerald Green should have gone #1 in 2005. Team needs also play a huge role.



No GM purposely "drops the ball" on draft day. They always make decisions based on what they think is best for their club. What GM's think doesn't affect draft position? Are you serious?
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Post#19 » by Don Draper » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:20 am

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No GM purposely "drops the ball" on draft day. They always make decisions based on what they think is best for their club. What GM's think doesn't affect draft position? Are you serious?


Are you reading what I posted? I never said purposely. It happens. GMs make mistakes.

The two players currently ahead of OJ Mayo play different positions. (And it needs to be said he has a decent chance of going number 2) Team needs also matter.
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Post#20 » by L&H_05 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:30 am

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It would depend how long they would expect Mayo to reach Kobe standards or any where near it.
Teams don't draft players with expectations of them leaving... The way it's setup is for teams to pay their players more, thus not anticipating their departure..

Besides, Kobe wasn't really a great player until his 5th season of 00-01, just like T-Mac wasn't a great player until that same season, with it being his 4th year...

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