Brook Lopez!

[BBen]

Stacking redundant talent gets you nowhere. Look at the abundantly talented Denver and Golden State teams that have no inside scoring. Biedrins and Camby get garbage points but they aren't legit options inside. The problem here is that they're stacked with perimeter scorers which just doesn't get it done. Other examples are the Lakers before they got Gasol and the Suns teams that always came up short against Tim Duncan (Amare is a more versatile scorer and not a go-to post guy. He has a similar game to Garnett where they both take a lot of free-throw line distance jumpers).

Also you fail to realize that my argument is that Lopez will NOT be a role-player. You completely underestimate this kid.

[Det the Threat]

A very solid opinion and I would probably agree with you about trading for the proven talent over drafting the unproven one. Unfortunately this scenario is probably impossible and I'd be very happy with Lopez. I'm just happy to have some support in the idea that he won't be a total bust which seems to be the general consensus on these boards.

Yeah, i doubt that the Bucks would consider trading Bogut and i could only see Presti offering something like Wilcox, Marshall, #4 for Bogut, Simmons, which probably wouldn't be enough.

Though, even as i wouldn't be shocked if we'd take B. Lopez at #4, i'd still rather have Mayo or Bayless over the former Cardinal.

[bennith13]

Stacking redundant talent gets you nowhere. Look at the abundantly talented Denver and Golden State teams that have no inside scoring. Biedrins and Camby get garbage points but they aren't legit options inside. The problem here is that they're stacked with perimeter scorers which just doesn't get it done. Other examples are the Lakers before they got Gasol and the Suns teams that always came up short against Tim Duncan (Amare is a more versatile scorer and not a go-to post guy. He has a similar game to Garnett where they both take a lot of free-throw line distance jumpers).

Also you fail to realize that my argument is that Lopez will NOT be a role-player. You completely underestimate this kid.

Hey, you don't have to tell me about the positives of having a good lot post scorer. I am the biggest Tim Duncan fanboy out there. If there were a good big that was worthy of being picked in the top 4 then I would be all over drafting him, I just don't think there is one. I would rather draft a a player that will turn out good at a position we don't have... like PG.

I don't fail to realize that you think Lopez will not be a role player... thats great. I just feel as if there are better players that have all start potential that will be available when we pick.


I do think it is possible to win without a great big man low post scorer though. Durant could end up being able to post, or Green. In that case it would be good to just have a big that could play solid defense and rebound.

Those Denver teams have lots of talent but are constructed poorly. I still think they would have been better to keep Andre Miller because he would have been a bigger guard that could play defense and get Melo the ball where he needs it to score.

[BBen]

Those Denver teams have lots of talent but are constructed poorly. I still think they would have been better to keep Andre Miller because he would have been a bigger guard that could play defense and get Melo the ball where he needs it to score.

Exactly and Mayo is a Melo type headcase waiting to happen. And why put two big time jumpshooters on the same team with Mayo and Durant? If we're talking about taking an undersized two (combo guard as they're called these days) Bayless is a better choice since he has an inside out game whereas Mayo has an outside in (if there's any penetration it's after he takes like 10 jumpers) game.

I just don't get why undersized two guards posturing as point guards are projected as "more likely" to be stars than a C with a prototype body and a proven college career.

[bennith13]

I guess I don't think Bayless is an undersized two guard. I see him as a point. He may not be a pure point at this time, but he is only 19, with some coaching up he could be a real good PG.


Also another point with Denver is that they don't play any defense. They could have been a good team last year if they had any desire to stop people.

[BBen]

Defense is a result of a mentality. Sure Mayo plays individual defense but his mentality engenders a feeling of discontinuity like with Melo or AI. Both teams outside of Melo, AI and Mayo look like they watch instead of participate.