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Post#21 » by DG4L » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:41 pm

Well did you want DISGRUNTLED? My 1st choice was Noah but with all this crap coming out about his bad attitude and drug issues, we'll see.
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Post#22 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:43 pm

according to John Hollinger's prospect ranking system, the best player available at the time we picked was Thaddeus Young - #4 overall on his list. Corey Brewer was 24th, ouchy

but then Nick Fazekas and Josh McRoberts were 7th & 8th.

But if we would combine a scouts mock draft and Hollinger's rankings, the top 10 would've been:

1. Durant
2. Oden
3. Conley Jr
4. Thad Young
5. Brandan Wright
6. Al Horford
7. Rodney Stuckey
8. Joakim Noah
9. Sean Williams
10. Jeff Green

that top 10 would be solid
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Post#23 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:49 pm

DG4L wrote:Well did you want DISGRUNTLED? My 1st choice was Noah but with all this crap coming out about his bad attitude and drug issues, we'll see.

I was BIG on Jeff Green before draft night, thats who I wanted. Obviously he got drafted/dealt, so next was Joakim Noah, who I thought would be a better overall center then Blount and do more dirty work than KG had to do.

But post KG trade, Noah almost makes too much sense to have drafted by us. Off the court problems or not, he'd of filled in a big gap. Something I dont see Brewer doing at all. Especially if we decide to keep Gomes, then what do we with do with Brewer, bring him off the bench?
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Post#24 » by revprodeji » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:53 pm

I think Brewer might fit better as the 2 then the 3. So depending if we draft a big (love/lopez) early we could sport a

Al/Love/Gomes/Brew/Foye lineup.

**fast line-up would be Al-Gomes-Brew-Shad-Foye

If we draft Mayo then we can still pick up a center and start

center/Al/Brewer/Mayo/Foye

**fast--Al/Gomes/Brewer/Mayo/Foye

Gomes and Brewer to not hurt each other.

Noah was horrible at the beginning of the year until they carved out a fit for him (after the wallace trade) then Noah did good. With Brewer we tried at the beginning of the year, understood he has work to do and did not push him into major minutes for the remainder of the year. It is only 1 year, give the kid a chance.
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Post#25 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:58 pm

how about i eat a plate of crow on here if he does pan out to be pretty good.
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Post#26 » by TMo519 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:01 pm

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NeQAngGLjo

theres a start

For every clip like that, you can bust out one like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iah1pkz3GDM&feature=related
or this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FB1sjVsvq2A&feature=related
or this:
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There's no denying there's talent there. Whether he realizes it, no one knows, but the talent is there.
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Post#27 » by Dewey » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:02 pm

Jefferson and Brewer are the two players I'd keep over any of the others. Lots of fans like the flashy players and rarely choose to acknowledge much else that's happening on the floor.

Brewer has a terrific team mentallity and is a great building block for this young group. He's odviously going to get stronger and his NBA skills are improving already. These tall & lanky college players do not adjust as quickly to the NBA as the more stout players and it shows with Brewer. You will see vast improvement next season, and a likley impact player the year after. He will be a great "long-term" player in the league - no doubt. He does not impress now and maybe never will, but he will be a catalyst for a winning team.

Jefferson and Brewer are the last players I'm concerned about when it comes to the Wolves success.
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Post#28 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:50 pm

revprodeji wrote:I think Brewer might fit better as the 2 then the 3.


me too. For now anyways until he gets bigger.
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Post#29 » by revprodeji » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:05 pm

Only way to do it is to have a 3 that can shoot. (Gomes?) If we draft a big (love/lopez) I could see and enjoy a line-up of

Love/Al/Gomes/Brew/Foye
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Post#30 » by deeney0 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:47 pm

Gomes doesn't shoot particularly well. .33 3P%, .45 FG%, 1.2 PPS, .49 eFG%. Not terrible, but he's certainly not a "shooter." 36 qualifying forwards shot better from three last year than he did.

I think Corey COULD be just as good from 3 as Ryan was last year.
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Post#31 » by revprodeji » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:56 pm

% are good and all, but what I mean is that Gomes provides spacing and can make that outside jumper on a consistant basis. Notice I did not ask for a "shooter", but rather someone that can shoot.
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Post#32 » by deeney0 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:03 pm

revprodeji wrote:Notice I did not ask for a "shooter", but rather someone that can shoot.


I guess there is a subtle distinction, but I'm not sure how much spacing someone hitting on only 1 out of 3 3PA really provides, especially because he got a lot of open looks last year. He had the highest percentage of his makes come off assists on this team last year, 71%
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Post#33 » by revprodeji » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:12 pm

Good job using my quote system. It will be nice when they fix that bug.

You can provide spacing w/o 3pt range. What I felt Gomes did well last year was that baseline jumper. 18feet or so. He made that one with a Sam Mitchell type production. Considering Al on the baseline that area is a good space to provide spacing. I think Gomes does that.

Lets say we get Love.

Al/Love/Gomes/Brew/Foye

Al in the post where he likes.

Foye can be on the top of the key, or even more on the wing side. Working the 2 man game with Al. Gomes can be on the baseline providing spacing. Running from baseline to baseline. Love can be in the high post providing spacing, as well as a proper passing angle to Al sealing off someone, or to a cutting Brewer/Gomes.

It is a very good offensive unit.
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Post#34 » by Worm Guts » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:25 pm

revprodeji wrote:Only way to do it is to have a 3 that can shoot. (Gomes?) If we draft a big (love/lopez) I could see and enjoy a line-up of

Love/Al/Gomes/Brew/Foye



Brewer has to learn how to shoot 3s if he wants to be a useful player on a good team. Look at Bruce Bowen and James Posey, if you're athletic, good defensively and can provide spacing on offense, then you've got a spot in this league. Corey's got potential to be more than that, but right now he should be focusing on his outside shooting.
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Post#35 » by big3_8_19_21 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:01 pm

Love/Al/Gomes/Brew/Foye

I don't think that's enough 3pt shooting...Foye's a terrific 3pt shooter, but Gomes is merely OK as a deep shooter, I don't want him shooting that many, and I would only want Love to step out to the 3pt line a couple times a game, just for a switch-up rather than a go to scoring option from that distance...Brewer's 3pt shooting is negligible at this point, unless he improves quite a bit, but I wouldn't expect anything better than 32 or 33 percent next season with consistent attempts, likely more like 29% or so.
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Post#36 » by deeney0 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:48 pm

If he focused on it this summer (and he better have), Corey should be a lot better on wide open, uncontested threes. Foye and Shad both were able to improve their technique with whoever was helping them (presumably Freddy or JB, maybe RSW). I hope to see Corey in the 30s from three next season, and I'd like to see him take very few contested shots from that far away. Take it to the hole.

A lot of those guys added the 3 after they came into the NBA. Bowen was crappy from three his first three seasons, Artest sucked from three his first four seasons, Posey wasn't reliable until he got to Miami. Prince was a good shooter right from the get-go. Scottie Pippen never found his range, even in the years the 3 point line was closer.

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