heat,timberwolves,sonics

[miami heat 28]

heat trades beasley to seattle.
seattle trades green,4th pick to timberwolves and trades wilcox to miami.
timberwolves trade mayo to miami.

[deeney0]

Green+4 for 3 seems about right to me.

[shrink]

heat trades beasley to seattle.
seattle trades green,4th pick to timberwolves and trades wilcox to miami.
timberwolves trade mayo to miami.

Interesting start, but you're missing a few players here.

Who does MIA send to SEA to balance salaries for wilcox?

Who does MIN send to SEA to balance salaries for green?

[big3_8_19_21]

That could make some sense if the salary fillers are right.

[miami heat 28]

any suggestions with fillers?

[andyhop]

The Heat are the problem here as the only filler contracts they could use are guys that would have to be S&T after the draft,Barron being the best as a small raise from last year makes the difference between Beasley and Wilcox's salary.Wolves send Buckner + cash for a buyout for Green and the rights to the 4th pick and send the rights to Mayo to Miami to make it easier to match up salaries in the deal.

Given that Barron is likely to earn more in this deal than as a FA he should agree.

Leaving it as
Heat trade: Beasley,Barron (S&T about $1.5m)
Heat receive: Wilcox,rights to Mayo

Wolves trade: Rights to Mayo,Buckner,Cash
Wolves receive: Green,Rights to Love/Lopez

Sonics trade: Wilcox,Green,rights to Love/Lopez
Sonics receive: Beasley,Barron,Buckner,Cash

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

The odds of this happenin arent good, but I think Jeff Greens just a good all around player, and I think he'll be a good player his whole life.

Id do it. But it wont happen

[deeney0]

The Heat are the problem here as the only filler contracts they could use are guys that would have to be S&T after the draft,Barron being the best as a small raise from last year makes the difference between Beasley and Wilcox's salary.Wolves send Buckner + cash for a buyout for Green and the rights to the 4th pick and send the rights to Mayo to Miami to make it easier to match up salaries in the deal.

Given that Barron is likely to earn more in this deal than as a FA he should agree.

Leaving it as
Heat trade: Beasley,Barron (S&T about $1.5m)
Heat receive: Wilcox,rights to Mayo

Wolves trade: Rights to Mayo,Buckner,Cash
Wolves receive: Green,Rights to Love/Lopez

Sonics trade: Wilcox,Green,rights to Love/Lopez
Sonics receive: Beasley,Barron,Buckner,Cash

Such a deal would make Barron BYC and thus the trade wouldn't work.

[andyhop]

Yeah confused my BYC rules .

Make it Johnson and Anthony,even better for the Sonics as they are unguaranteed and can be cut for nothing

[deeney0]

Same problem. Only way to do it is with Haslem, Blount, Davis s&t, Williams s&t, Marion, or Wade. There also might be a way to do it with Banks and some the guys you mentioned.

[andyhop]

Miami are taking in $6.75m in salary for Wilcox and the rights of Mayo value 0 for trade purposes so they have to send out $5.32m.Beasley signed is $4.019m leaving $1.3m to find.Anthony and Johnson each make 700k+ making it work.

By using Beasley signed and the rights to Mayo and Love/Lopez which have zero salary for trade purposes it makes it a much easier trade to make work than having everyone signed.

[younggunsmn]

Keep Dreaming.
1. No Way Sonics trade Green to move up 2 spots. That is extremely poor value, even for Beasley.
It's like trading #4 and #5 for #2. The only stuff they'd be willing to part with is not stuff we're interested in buying because we already have enough of a stockpile (late 1st rounders).
2. Green + Brewer = redundant players
3. Wolves would be stupid to deal with Miami at all if they don't want Mayo because Love, Lopez, Bayless, Randolph, or Galinari could be had at 7 or 8 with better returns from Bucks/Clips (Bogut, our pick back, or this blockbuster:)


Wolves trade:
3 (Mayo), Walker
Wolves Receive:
7 (Lopez)
8 (Joe Alexander)
B.Knight
T. Thomas

Bucks Trade:
Redd, 8 (Alexander)
Bucks Receive
3 (Mayo), Walker (Expiring), Mobley

Clips Trade:
T.Thomas, C. Mobley, 7 (Lopez)
Clips Receive:
Redd

This is the best I think we could do in a trade down, but even this trade sucks in that it takes the wolves out of free agency next year and leaves up with the same crappy backcourt rotation from last year. And don't even start with the rush/roberts/budinger are better than foye/mccants as rookies bullcrap. And don't tell me the bucks would move Redd without getting at least one big expiring back.

I still think the smart thing to do would be to take whoever falls between Rose/Beasley/Mayo.
You win with stars, not a bunch of average guys.

[big3_8_19_21]

boy, the bucks are taking it in the pooper on that one

[vincent]

so the Heat do a deal to receive Chris Wilcox?

b/c if Pat likes Mayo more than Beasley
why not select Mayo at 2
why go though the trouble of trading
for Chris Wilcox

[deeney0]

My posts are getting eaten. Yesterday, I wrote:

Ah yes, it works if Beasley is signed. I was assuming his rights would be traded.

[shrink]

so the Heat do a deal to receive Chris Wilcox?

b/c if Pat likes Mayo more than Beasley
why not select Mayo at 2
why go though the trouble of trading
for Chris Wilcox :banghead: :wavefinger: :crazy:

Because they believe Beasley has so much more value than the #4, that they want to use it to get Green and move Mark Blount's bad contract.= fir Wilcox' expiring.

[andyhop]

My posts are getting eaten. Yesterday, I wrote:

Ah yes, it works if Beasley is signed. I was assuming his writes would be traded.

The fillers aren't a problem the fact that the Sonics wouldn't do it is the real problem and the Heat could do a lot better for Beasley as well by trading him for an established player rather than just a high replacement pick.Apart from that its a good deal.

[revprodeji]

complicated trades rarely work on draft day.

-If we are convinced Mayo is not a star then we move on a trade down deal. Green+4=3. I can handle that deal.