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Kwame Brown 

Post#1 » by geeman » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:50 pm

This is a no brainer guy. This guy has talent and now the motivation and
He’s from the area. I think him a missing part we need. I hear a interview with him and
I think he has something to prove this year. Here is some vid I found. He shows flashes….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8eMsEXPmX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knzzondy ... re=related
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Post#2 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:33 pm

Kwame would be a nice fit but I'm not sure the Hawks will be able to get him after they sign Childress(which I expect they will do). You would be better off trying to get Pryzbilla or Nene via trade.
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Post#3 » by Harry10 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:57 pm

i approve of this..... i just hope it is possible
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Post#4 » by HMFFL » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:25 pm

All Kwame is motivated to do is get another contract. While we could use the size, I question his heart and desire to actually win at the NBA level.
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Post#5 » by parson » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:26 pm

According to Michael Jordan, KB's biggest problem is his hands. Jordan said they're too small and weak. I've read that Jordan pitched a fit the 1st time he saw Brown's hands in person.

He's a good defender but an unimpressive shot blocker. His hands make him a poor offensive player and a major turnover risk.

Several teams have taken a chance on him, hoping to get his offense going. It seems Jordan was right.
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Post#6 » by Harry10 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:23 pm

^ yeah yeah, we know now that Kwame didn't deserve to be the #1 pick.... but he is still a legit NBA player. the biggest problem is that people still see him as the #1 overall pick, and that is not really his fault. people just need to accept who Kwame is, a defensive role player.

yeah, the coaches should try to expand Kwame's game, but really, the coaches should look to put each player in a position where he can contribute and play his game.

maybe Kwame can start or maybe he can give 15 min off the bench, but i wouldn't give him any touches. just let him play defense and let him play his game. the key is that the Hawks don't overpay him.

btw. i don't really care if Kwame block shots or not, the most important thing is that if he keeps people out of the lane and stop guys from getting easy layups.
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Post#7 » by HMFFL » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:29 pm

parson wrote:According to Michael Jordan, KB's biggest problem is his hands. Jordan said they're too small and weak. I've read that Jordan pitched a fit the 1st time he saw Brown's hands in person.

He's a good defender but an unimpressive shot blocker. His hands make him a poor offensive player and a major turnover risk.

Several teams have taken a chance on him, hoping to get his offense going. It seems Jordan was right.



It sounds to me that your just talking about the past as I doubt Jordan has even mention Kwame recently. His hands looked stronger during recent years compared to when he first came into the league. I'd still like to see him improve his footwork and gain some heart.
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Post#8 » by ATLfan » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:37 pm

Kwame would be a good fit for us. All Kwame would have to do is bring a good post defender to the second unit and any scoring would be a plus.
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Post#9 » by parson » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:53 am

HMFFL, unless you're going to argue that KB's hands have grown larger, I don't see how Jordan's past opinion is any less valid today.

I'm not against signing Brown for somewhere around what we pay Zaza, but he's always going to be a turnover machine, unless you just don't pass him the ball.
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Post#10 » by HMFFL » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:22 am

parson wrote:HMFFL, unless you're going to argue that KB's hands have grown larger, I don't see how Jordan's past opinion is any less valid today.

I'm not against signing Brown for somewhere around what we pay Zaza, but he's always going to be a turnover machine, unless you just don't pass him the ball.


It's valid because I didn't say larger, I said strong, so that's the difference and Kwame has better control of the ball now compared to when he was a rookie. Still doesn't say much about his game. If he does come here I don't want us to give him a player option, I want a team option to be included with any contract that's made to him, so we are protected and don't have to deal with a cancer.
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Post#11 » by saloonyk8 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:46 am

Guys can develop better D, postgame, jumpers, hooks, turnaround, and better footwork. They can't develop desire or heart. Especially not Kwame, he's been thrown under the bus enough and stayed down so we know he's not going to be any better than before.

That said, if we could give him Zaza money (<= $4M per year) I think I'd like to use him as a backup big. But knowing Woodson he'd probably run the offense through him...
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Post#12 » by conleyorbust » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:23 pm

I don't think anyone is advocating that we offer him any more than Zaza money. The point is that we didn't have a reserve big man that was servicable at ANYTHING last season and the worst that you can say about Kwame is that he is a pretty bad offensive player as opposed to Zaza last season who was a terrible offensive and defensive player. Kwame means we can take Josh out of the game and still have a defensive presence (he isn't much of a shotblocker but he understands positioning and he is big as hell) and we can take out Al and not have Marvin guarding a post player.
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Post#13 » by NWO4Life » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:59 pm

I think you do have to at least have a conversation with him and his agent and see what tyoe of compensation he is expecting.
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Post#14 » by geeman » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:34 pm

Kevin Willis, a former Atlanta Hawk Allstar was a 7 footer with small hands and short arm, but he had
a pretty goood career here. He could be a simalar type player for us as a backup 4/5.
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Post#15 » by raleigh » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:00 am

One of the very first things that Sund complimented Knight on was the high character level on the Hawks.

Kwame kinda screws with that premise, eh? I'm just not sure on him...
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Post#16 » by evildallas » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:05 am

I heard a lot of dissing of Kwame's small hands this season around the time of the Gasol trade as something that was holding him back on getting better.

I think the tidbit about Michael Jordan being unhappy when seeing him in person speaks volumes. He was a great player but really tried to phone his team president/GM stint with the Wizards in. You have the #1 pick in the draft and use it on someone you haven't personally checked out? That's a bush league move, something that Billy Knight would do with the #5 pick.
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Post#17 » by parson » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:57 am

geeman wrote:Kevin Willis, a former Atlanta Hawk Allstar was a 7 footer with small hands and short arm, but he had
a pretty goood career here. He could be a simalar type player for us as a backup 4/5.

I don't remember Willis having small hands (I remember the short arms, however) but if you say so...

BUT, Kevin Willis was a spectacular athlete, much more impressive than KB will ever be. Willis ran something like a 4 minute mile in HS, for example. He was also a non-stop worker, a real Charlie Hustle. He became a terrific rebounder by wanting the ball more than the other guy.

Kwame Brown should never be compared to Kevin Willis. Willis knew how to work; in 6 years, Brown's work ethic has improved from lousy to decent.
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Re: Kwame Brown 

Post#18 » by Harry10 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:53 am

small hands won't mean a thing.... because Hawks will not be asking Kwame to score.... did the Hawks ask L.Wright to be a scorer?
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Post#19 » by HoopsGuru25 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:59 am

I'm not sure what the Hawks asked Lo to do besides suck at every aspect of basketball besides fouling.
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Post#20 » by evildallas » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:54 pm

Harry10 wrote:small hands won't mean a thing.... because Hawks will not be asking Kwame to score.... did the Hawks ask L.Wright to be a scorer?


Setting the bar mighty low there by bringing up Lo Wright.
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