06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

[europa]

Villanueva/8 for Mayo.
Mo for Haslem
Redd for Howard/filler
Sign Duhon as a free agent - just to get Luke all worked up

Go with:

PG: Sessions/Duhon
SG: Mayo/Bell
SF: Howard/Simmons/Dez
PF: Yi/Haslem
C: Bogut

That'd work for next season.

[emunney]

By far the craziest thing in the DX post is the apparent truth that Robin Lopez is going 10th to the Nets. Kiki's getting cute already.

[Debit One]

Villanueva/8 for Mayo.
Mo for Haslem
Redd for Howard/filler
Sign Duhon as a free agent - just to get Luke all worked up

Go with:

PG: Sessions/Duhon
SG: Mayo/Bell
SF: Howard/Simmons/Dez
PF: Yi/Haslem
C: Bogut

That'd work for next season.

I'm fine with that as a general plan, but it's going to take Yi, not CV, to get Mayo so you're going to have a PF slot of Haslem/CV, not Yi/Haslem.

[europa]

Villanueva/8 for Mayo.
Mo for Haslem
Redd for Howard/filler
Sign Duhon as a free agent - just to get Luke all worked up

Go with:

PG: Sessions/Duhon
SG: Mayo/Bell
SF: Howard/Simmons/Dez
PF: Yi/Haslem
C: Bogut

That'd work for next season.

I'm fine with that as a general plan, but it's going to take Yi, not CV, to get Mayo so you're going to have a PF slot of Haslem/CV, not Yi/Haslem.

That's not a problem. I'd sign off on Yi/8 for Mayo if McHale won't go for Villanueva.

[cam2win]

Good stuff and a great discussion so far.

While I'm in the draft Alexander at 8 camp, there is no doubt a Yi or CV and 8 for Mayo is a MUCH better proposition for this team. He has star potential written all over him and the Roy comparison is a great one. As an active Mo-Nation member I have to believe this would be the perfect guard to pair next to him. I've thought Mo would be a great Blazer next to Roy...why not have that here.

As many have said, we must deal Redd then. I have to think a package with Redd would be able to get us one of the SF available, whether it's RJ, Howard, Maggette, Prince, heck even a guy like Odom would be great.

[LUKE23]

By far the craziest thing in the DX post is the apparent truth that Robin Lopez is going 10th to the Nets. Kiki's getting cute already.

And possibly before his superstar sister as well. How funny would that be?

[jerrod]

Villanueva/8 for Mayo.
Mo for Haslem
Redd for Howard/filler
Sign Duhon as a free agent - just to get Luke all worked up

Go with:

PG: Sessions/Duhon
SG: Mayo/Bell
SF: Howard/Simmons/Dez
PF: Yi/Haslem
C: Bogut

That'd work for next season.

i know your thoughts on mo in general but people on here are comparing mayo to roy and then saying that mo would fit perfectly in portland for a reason so i think if given the opportunity we need to give that a shot.

so i'd be cool with:
mo/sessions
mayo/mo/bell
howard/simmons/dez
cv/?
bogut/gadz

but hammond would have to get us a backup 4, and i don't know how he'd do that

[cam2win]

Villanueva/8 for Mayo.
Mo for Haslem
Redd for Howard/filler
Sign Duhon as a free agent - just to get Luke all worked up

Go with:

PG: Sessions/Duhon
SG: Mayo/Bell
SF: Howard/Simmons/Dez
PF: Yi/Haslem
C: Bogut

That'd work for next season.

i know your thoughts on mo in general but people on here are comparing mayo to roy and then saying that mo would fit perfectly in portland for a reason so i think if given the opportunity we need to give that a shot.

so i'd be cool with:
mo/sessions
mayo/mo/bell
howard/simmons/dez
cv/?
bogut/gadz

but hammond would have to get us a backup 4, and i don't know how he'd do that

I love that team and agree we would need a PF of some sort. If he falls to 37, how about DJ White? I think he could be the Paul Milsap, Carl Landry of this draft and would be a more than adequate backup PF

[LUKE23]

Mayo is a perfect complement to Mo OFFENSIVELY. Mayo can pass and score, Mo can pass and score. Really that is a backcourt that really puts the pressure on the defense. Now, it working would be predicated on Mo buying into Skiles defensive philosophy. If he doesn't, we still have Sessions as a capable backup.

But Mayo and Mo is a good fit on offense. Both guys can shoot, pass, and rebound at their position, and with Mayo's ability to create it doesn't hurt us as much that Mo is not in the Deron Williams/Chris Paul/Steve Nash mold as a PG.

If we landed Mayo, I look to move Redd for an athletic, long SF.

[barbados73]

What if the Bucks could deal Bogut straight up(or close) for the #3? The Bucks get to keep their pick(maybe use it on Brook Lopez to replace Bogut), and the Bucks don't have to get locked into an extension with Bogut if they are not totally sold on him(play or attitude).

You add Mayo or Beasley at #3, along with say B.Lopez at #8 and then you still have CV, Redd and Mo to deal if you choose. If you can swing a trade of say Redd for a C, then you could take someone like J.Alexander or Gordon at #8.

Just thinking outside the box

[LUKE23]

What if the Bucks could deal Bogut straight up(or close) for the #3? The Bucks get to keep their pick(maybe use it on Brook Lopez to replace Bogut), and the Bucks don't have to get locked into an extension with Bogut if they are not totally sold on him(play or attitude).

You add Mayo or Beasley at #3, along with say B.Lopez at #8 and then you still have CV, Redd and Mo to deal if you choose. If you can swing a trade of say Redd for a C, then you could take someone like J.Alexander or Gordon at #8.

Just thinking outside the box

I'll pass on moving Bogut.

[Rockmaninoff]

What if the Bucks could deal Bogut straight up(or close) for the #3? The Bucks get to keep their pick(maybe use it on Brook Lopez to replace Bogut), and the Bucks don't have to get locked into an extension with Bogut if they are not totally sold on him(play or attitude).

You add Mayo or Beasley at #3, along with say B.Lopez at #8 and then you still have CV, Redd and Mo to deal if you choose. If you can swing a trade of say Redd for a C, then you could take someone like J.Alexander or Gordon at #8.

Just thinking outside the box

That's what it's going to be. I live outside the box.

Bogut for #3/Jaric.

Mayo and Yi is the international money machine. But, like I said before, it would be really worth it to try and get Kevin Love to replace Bogut and form a new young triumvirate. Surround them with veteran role players, and the sky is the limit.

Like for instance, there has got to be a deal available with Memphis. Something like #8/2010 First for #5.

[jerrod]

I'll pass on moving Bogut.

me too, unless they throw in brewer kidding


i agree with you about mo/mayo being great offensively and unknown defensively but i would say that sessions is in the same boat. either, neither, or both could really benefit from skiles so that's why i would really like to see them given a shot before either is moved

[pilprin]

I think it would take Yi/8 though. What are people's thoughts on that deal?

I agree that it would take Yi/8 to get #3. I'd do it, but as you know Mayo isn't the guy who I would target with that pick.

It's hard to evealuate that because there would have to be additional moves made.

I don't want to move Yi. I just think he has the potential to be a stud. However if Hammonds thinks he is a Tweener, then maybe you deal him.

I'd consider taking a crappy contract from MN if it would help.

In the end, I think we end up dealing Mo or CV for another mid round pick.

Alexander and Augustine are who I think we will take.

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

Love and Yi play the same position. The limit is a lot lower than the sky, since neither of those two can play any position other than PF.

[Rockmaninoff]

Love and Yi play the same position. The limit is a lot lower than the sky, since neither of those two can play any position other than PF.

Explain to me why Yi can't play Mehmet Okur style center?

With Yi being a better defender?

[James1980]

Could we do CV, 8, and a future first for the 3? I would not trade Bogut for the 3 and would hesitate to include Yi because of the value he brings to the franchise.

Say Westbrook has a guarantee he'll go to the Clippers at 7, why not work out for the Bucks who could possibly trade up and get him? I don't understand these rookies who refuse workouts.

[LUKE23]

Love and Yi play the same position. The limit is a lot lower than the sky, since neither of those two can play any position other than PF.

Explain to me why Yi can't play Mehmet Okur style center?

Okur is 263 pounds, Yi is 245 AT BEST. Okur also plays with a top 3 PG who knows how to create and get every player the ball in the right spots. Okur also has some back to the basket game, while Yi still needs to develop that. Okur has also been a 7.5+ rebound guy the last four years, while Yi has a lot of work to do to get to that level.

Yi is not a center. Love is not a center. Yi/Bogut >>> Love/Yi.

[jerrod]

Love and Yi play the same position. The limit is a lot lower than the sky, since neither of those two can play any position other than PF.

Explain to me why Yi can't play Mehmet Okur style center?

personally, even if he can do it, i don't want that kind of center

[Rockmaninoff]

Love and Yi play the same position. The limit is a lot lower than the sky, since neither of those two can play any position other than PF.

Explain to me why Yi can't play Mehmet Okur style center?

Okur is 263 pounds, Yi is 245 AT BEST. Okur also plays with a top 3 PG who knows how to create and get every player the ball in the right spots. Okur also has some back to the basket game, while Yi still needs to develop that. Okur has also been a 7.5+ rebound guy the last four years, while Yi has a lot of work to do to get to that level.

Yi is not a center. Love is not a center. Yi/Bogut >>> Love/Yi.

I didn't ask you anything, but oh well...

I got Okur listed at 249.

We got Ramon Sessions, and if we trade for Mayo we have a guy who projects to be that kind of impact player.

I rarely ever see Okur in the post with his back to the basket.

Per36 minutes Yi projects to average 7.5 rebounds per game.

Yi is a forward/center. Love is power forward. Your 'better than' comparison is quite subjective.