06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

[LUKE23]

He already said in his first post that Yi/Bogut aren't part of the deal. Says it in his first quote.

I'm guessing it involves any combination of Redd/CV/#8.

[Rockmaninoff]

He already said in his first post that Yi/Bogut aren't part of the deal. Says it in his first quote.

I'm guessing it involves any combination of Redd/CV/#8.

Did you see the quote where he says he was wrong? What does that imply based upon what proceded it?

[LUKE23]

He already said in his first post that Yi/Bogut aren't part of the deal. Says it in his first quote.

I'm guessing it involves any combination of Redd/CV/#8.

Did you see the quote where he says he was wrong? What does that imply based on what proceded it?

I believe the "I guess I was wrong" was referring to other people's guesses on what the trade was, as if he was expecting different guesses by people.

[Rockmaninoff]

He already said in his first post that Yi/Bogut aren't part of the deal. Says it in his first quote.

I'm guessing it involves any combination of Redd/CV/#8.

Did you see the quote where he says he was wrong? What does that imply based on what proceded it?

I believe the "I guess I was wrong" was referring to other people's guesses on what the trade was, as if he was expecting different guesses by people.

To be fair, this information could be interpreted a number of different ways. At least we are getting the idea that something is going to happen.

[paulpressey25]

I interpreted the "some of you will be disappointed" to relate to Mayo. i.e. that a number of people after the original post talked about getting Mayo then. But since a great deal of the posts talked about getting a higher draft pick for Love or Mayo, maybe he was referring to that concept. i..e we are trading out of our spot for a veteran player.

If Dallas was willing to trade Josh Howard for Simmons/#8 or something like that, I'd be all over it. But I doubt that is the deal.

[Wise1]

The Bucks want star power. Mayo would represent that. However, they may have come to the conclusion that their package won't be enough to get him OR they know that Mayo will go higher than projected = #2 to Miami. I personally would take him over Beasley. I think Mayo will be Riley's guy.

If the Bucks can't pry Mayo from Miami, I see them trading the pick for veteran players. Sheed and Billups would be out there for the taking in some package should Hammond and Dumars use the buddy system to help each other out. I'd love to nab Tayshaun but he's probably one of the guys Dumars wants to hang on to.

I definitely don't believe Mo will be on the roster when training camp starts so I can see him being shipped to Portland in a deal involving Travis Outlaw and the #13. My fondest wish would be to ship Mo and CV to NYC for the #6.

I also don't think Yi/8 or Redd for Brand is out of the question.

[LUKE23]

Mo is BYC. The chances of him getting moved before July 1 are slim.

[paulpressey25]

I'll throw one more out there that fits win now and would disappoint the "trade Redd" camp and the "go young" camp.

#8/Bobby for Josh Howard.

Dallas would only go for this IMO if Cuban and his new staff wanted to try and be geniuses again and draft Danilo Gallinari.

[ReasonablySober]

Howard really does nothing for me. In my opinion the Bucks have two options:

1 - Stay where they're at and take the guy they think will be the best player in three years
2 - Use #8 and any needed assets to move up and secure Beasley or Mayo, whichever is around at #3.

This team needs a star, someone who could end up being that franchise talent.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Wow. I think the last time I posted in this thread was more than 15 pages ago, and look how big it is now!

I have glanced over some (not all of the posts) and based on what I have read I think people are thinking too big when trying to intrepret what wichame is talking about. With the comment that "some will be really disappointed," I'm going to say that the Bucks will probably do a smaller looking trade perhaps to move up to 5. With tha 5th pick they will either take Alexander (I know some think that is too high) or Love. Both players fit into what the Bucks want and would be naturals in Skiles system. Love seems more likely the target with the 5th pick, but Alexander has won over a ton of teams while guys like Gordon and Randolph have been falling. If that is not what he is referring too (which this is the most likely scenerio I am thinking)...

Then I will say that most of you will be upset when neither Redd nor Mo is moved on draft night. Also, the fact that some of you are thinking way to big as far as what we will get in return for one of them because I don't believe both will be moved.

[LUKE23]

I think very few people think both Redd and Mo will be moved, most believe one of them will, which is the camp I am in. I don't think they keep that backcourt together after watching how bad of a pair they were last year.

As far as trading up to 5, highly, highly doubt we'd move up to draft Alexander. He's going to be available to us at 8 if we want him most likely, and I think that Hammond/Skiles have done enough research to believe that will be the case.

I do firmly believe we are drafting Alexander at 8 if we stand pat though, just seems like the kind of player Hammond/Skiles would want to add, on top of the void we have at SF.

[DanoMac]

I agree with you about the team needing a superstar. I would, however, be estatic if the Bucks acquired Howard. He'd be a great fit here IMO.

This trade talk from wichmae is absolutely killing me. I'm assuming by "not being happy" that it's saying either one of Bogut, Yi, or Sessions will be traded.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Teams that are interested in Alexander ahead of us (mainly NY - seems like a two legged race for them between Westbrook and Alexander), are fully aware that we will probably take him if we stay at 8... From all the reports it seems like teams are falling in love with his competitiveness, strength, hard work, and toughness meaning they would be willing to take him higher than projected since once sure things (like Randolph and Gordon) appear to be free falling a bit...

I know some will disagree with that.. but I always look at how high guys seem to go in the draft that nobody expected to go that high up, and Alexander seems to be headed in that direction.

[carmelbrownqueen]

I agree with you about the team needing a superstar. I would, however, be estatic if the Bucks acquired Howard. He'd be a great fit here IMO.

This trade talk from wichmae is absolutely killing me. I'm assuming by "not being happy" that it's saying either one of Bogut, Yi, or Sessions will be traded.

He said YI and Bogut weren't being traded.

[MikeIsGood]

I don't want this to happen, but I guess I'll go ahead and guess that Sessions is traded. i think he would fit the criteria wichmae lays out as 'many people will be disappointed.' Even those not in love with him, most people it seems at least want to see him back another year to see how he does during a full season under Skiles.

[Balls2TheWalls]

I think that reading into what wichmae said is just as difficult as reading into what John Hammond says. It seems like his inclusion of Mo's contract being difficult to move points to Michael Redd being traded. I think that the disappointment will probably be in how little we get back for him. I think that if I cannot know the actual trade, that I would at least like to know what team it is with.

[MikeIsGood]

Balls, I agree it's difficult. For me that's also part of the fun in it, though like you say I certainly wouldn't mind knowing with what team it's with (or the entire trade). Maybe he'll be able to reveal more to us in the next week...I can't believe the draft is only 6 days away. It's about damn time.

[carmelbrownqueen]

I don't want this to happen, but I guess I'll go ahead and guess that Sessions is traded. i think he would fit the criteria wichmae lays out as 'many people will be disappointed.' Even those not in love with him, most people it seems at least want to see him back another year to see how he does during a full season under Skiles.

I definitely think there's a possiblity that Sessions might be surprise piece in a trade, but I'm hoping that isn't the case.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Well when Hammond was hired he told us right off the bat that we might not like some of the trades he makes, or won't agree that it's equal value (paraphrasing) but that he will try to make moves that are in the best interest of the team. So it's very possible that Redd is moved with more than a few fans scratching their heads saying "is that all we could get for_________!!!!!"

That could definitely be the case with Redd, Mo, or any other popular (yet somewhat polarizing) Buck player.

[xTitan]

I said in the guess the draft pick thread......I believe CV and Mo will traded and any extra expensive part they can deal. I will also guess that Mo nation in the end will be livid with what the Bucks get for him.