Most Depreciated Player Award

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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#21 » by Rocky5000 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:25 am

Half the people on that list didn't play for most of the year, which is why their stats look so bad, try filtering it out for players that played half a season. For example Patterson only played 20 games, and Boykins 36.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#22 » by Alex_De_Large » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:48 am

I was thinking about Jermaine O'neal but he was injured too often this last season.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#23 » by rewill17 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:00 am

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rewill17 wrote:The exact opposite of the Most Improved Player award. The player whose physical performance, statistics and/or team contribution had suffered the greatest drop for whatever reason (age, injury, laziness etc) from 2006-07 to 2007-08?


Gilbert Arenas? Eddy Curry? Shaquille O'Neal? Grant Hill (in the playoffs)? Ruben Patterson? Who gets the coveted trophy?

It can also be a discussion about great players and their natural decline that was observed during this past season.

with that criteria and considering he did not fall all the way to the bottom, however, IMO had the biggest drop was D Wade. not saying he wont rebounce next year just saying he lost a lot of brownie points.


06-07 MIA 51 50 37.9 0.491 0.266 0.807 1.0 3.7 4.7 7.5 2.1 1.2 4.24 2.30 27.4
07-08 MIA 51 49 38.3 0.469 0.286 0.758 0.9 3.3 4.2 6.9 1.7 0.7 4.39 2.70 24.6

he averaged 3 ppg less, played the same amount of games, shot 3% less, averaged 0.5 less rebounds and 0.6 less assists, and 0.4 less steals, 0.5 blocks, 0.4 more fouls.

Its not like starters like Jones who just dropped out of the rotation.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#24 » by rewill17 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:01 am

Rocky5000 wrote:Half the people on that list didn't play for most of the year, which is why their stats look so bad, try filtering it out for players that played half a season. For example Patterson only played 20 games, and Boykins 36.


why do you think the coach didn't put them in? they were healthy...they just depercated in value that they only play in blowouts.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#25 » by jman3134 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:08 am

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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#26 » by ilikecb4 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:06 am

Bargniani is number one, numero uno
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#27 » by floppymoose » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:27 am

Boykins shouldn't really count. He came back from not playing at all, and stunk, and then turned it on some towards the end of the year as he got adjusted to playing again.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#28 » by Patty Mills » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:37 am

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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#29 » by Tom Baker » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:13 pm

ilikecb4 wrote:Bargniani is number one, numero uno


While I agree that sophomore Bargnani doesn't even seem to be the same person as rookie Bargnani, I'm not sure I'd put him on this list. He's not established yet. It's not like a player who was good for 10 years and then dropped off. We're not even sure who the real Bargs is? Year 1 Bargs or Year 2 Bargs?
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#30 » by Teddy KGB » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:28 pm

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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#31 » by Kordic27 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:37 pm

Tom Baker wrote:
ilikecb4 wrote:Bargniani is number one, numero uno


While I agree that sophomore Bargnani doesn't even seem to be the same person as rookie Bargnani, I'm not sure I'd put him on this list. He's not established yet. It's not like a player who was good for 10 years and then dropped off. We're not even sure who the real Bargs is? Year 1 Bargs or Year 2 Bargs?


True, Bargs' decline has been from decent to horrible, not such a massive fall.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#32 » by dockingsched » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:45 pm

jermaine o'neal.

health: his health continues to decline. he only played 42 games, the least amount since his days in portland.

statistics: his stats took a nose dive. previously, although he's had to deal with injuries all the time, his stats would still remain a consistent 20/10. this yr, he avg'd 13.6 ppg and 6.7 rpg on 43.9% shooting. easily his worth season since coming to the pacers.

trade/contract: a yr ago, there was an argument he was worth more than an odom/bynum package from the lakers. now, most fans wouldn't want him and his 40 mil 2 yr contract even if their team got him for nothing.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#33 » by giberish » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:16 am

There's really 4 different catagories: Guys who got old (ex. Eddie Jones), guys who are marginal players who went from a good situation for them to a bad one (ex. Mike James), guys who were nagged by injuries (ex. Jermaine O'Neal), and then young or youngish players who should have improved (or at least stayed the same) but instead regressed (Hinrich, Curry, Bargs). The last group has to be the most troubling to their teams.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#34 » by TheOUTLAW » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:29 am

Mike James was always a fraud. He's just been exposed as one over the last 2 years.
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Re: Most Depreciated Player Award 

Post#35 » by RnB » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:54 pm

This award in my opinion goes to Kirk Hinrich.

I saw him as the point guard for the bulls, a good distributor, good lock down defender and a decent shooter. He had the skill set and mentality to be what Chicago would really ever need at point. Coming off a nice season last year, I thought he would continue on the rise but instead he regressed. This year his assists, rebounding and points were down, whilst keeping his steal total up to what it was last year.

I believe that if Hinrich had improved on last seasons averages (despite Rose being the hometown hero) we'd be hearing more about Chicago taking Beasley at #1.
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