Brandan Wright Available?

[NW]

Warriors have enough to keep all 3 and the pick without hitting the lux tax if the tax rises to $71 mil as expected unless someone offers Ellis or Biedrens a near max deal. Being that you guys and and Memphis (who just gave away their max guy to LA for roadkill) are the only ones with the cap space to do it, I don't think that's a concern.

So no waythat trade happens

This is called denial. Add $10 million for Ells & Biedrins & you are already at $67 million for 9 players & that does not include Azubuike or the pick. If you have to pay Azubuike $4 million & add the pick, I believe you're over & you still only have 11 on the roster. Sure you're close but you're not there yet. BTW, there are many on this board that believe that Biedrins is worth the money & we have it. I've also seen reports that Memphis would like Monta Ellis & they also have the money. Keep watching.

Nope called reality and knowing the situation.

If Azubike gets a deal that starts at $4 mil, he's likely gone. We'll see. Barnes probably comes back cheap with little interest elsewhere and the pick. We'll have our top 9 (ie the rotation) signed with a little under $4 mil to spare. We're talking the 10-12 men here, what idiot is going to pay anything but minimum deals for bench warmers?

As for Ellis and Biedrens. You guys got other players to re-sign. Once done, let's see how much you're willing to give AB

And the odds of Memphis giving up a young max deal big like Gasol so they can add another small guard at similar cost to go with the 3-4 they already got are pretty slim.

There's a reason Jason Richardson is in Charlotte even though it set the team back a little. This has been planned out for a year plus.

[magee]

Someone names Thaddeus Young is reason enough to not think of anyone at the 3. He's gonna be a stud. Stephen Jackson is a baller and a warrior on the court, but Young is too good for a kid his age (he's younger than a lot of the prospects in this draft) to have anyone think the Sixers would trade for a SF. If that's the case, Young plays out of position at the 4 for a good chunk of his minutes.

If Wright is available for a player like Carney, cash considerations and the #16 pick, do the trade. I can't see him having that little worth, though.

If I were Philly, I'd either trade out or go BPA, regardless of position. Hell, if JJ Hickson is there, take him.

[corwin]

This is called denial. Add $10 million for Ells & Biedrins & you are already at $67 million for 9 players & that does not include Azubuike or the pick. If you have to pay Azubuike $4 million & add the pick, I believe you're over & you still only have 11 on the roster. Sure you're close but you're not there yet. BTW, there are many on this board that believe that Biedrins is worth the money & we have it. I've also seen reports that Memphis would like Monta Ellis & they also have the money. Keep watching.

Nope called reality and knowing the situation.

If Azubike gets a deal that starts at $4 mil, he's likely gone. We'll see. Barnes probably comes back cheap with little interest elsewhere and the pick. We'll have our top 9 (ie the rotation) signed with a little under $4 mil to spare. We're talking the 10-12 men here, what idiot is going to pay anything but minimum deals for bench warmers?

As for Ellis and Biedrens. You guys got other players to re-sign. Once done, let's see how much you're willing to give AB

And the odds of Memphis giving up a young max deal big like Gasol so they can add another small guard at similar cost to go with the 3-4 they already got are pretty slim.

There's a reason Jason Richardson is in Charlotte even though it set the team back a little. This has been planned out for a year plus.[/quote]

I believe in your first post that you said that GS could keep all 3 (Azu, Biedrins, & Ellis) so that you are contradicting that statement in this post. That was my point, you don't have the money to keep all of those guys & add a pick if you have to pay your two key guys $10 million apiece & if Azu gets his $4 million. Also, not to argue but to tell you the reality of our situation & that is that Philly is $11 million under the cap. The RFA status of Williams & Iguodala has already been factored in with cap holds. Thus, Philly could offer either of your guys a contract starting at $11 million. Memphis is sitting there with $41 million on the books & salaries of a combined $3.4 million for their 2 draft picks. They thus have almost $14 million in cap space & signing Ellis (a future star) from Mississippi has already been talked about in the press. If & of course this is speculation, Philly & Memphis go after your two young guys, you will have to go into luxury territory. If you follow the GS board you know this is unlikely to happen.

[NW]

This is called denial. Add $10 million for Ells & Biedrins & you are already at $67 million for 9 players & that does not include Azubuike or the pick. If you have to pay Azubuike $4 million & add the pick, I believe you're over & you still only have 11 on the roster. Sure you're close but you're not there yet. BTW, there are many on this board that believe that Biedrins is worth the money & we have it. I've also seen reports that Memphis would like Monta Ellis & they also have the money. Keep watching.

Nope called reality and knowing the situation.

If Azubike gets a deal that starts at $4 mil, he's likely gone. We'll see. Barnes probably comes back cheap with little interest elsewhere and the pick. We'll have our top 9 (ie the rotation) signed with a little under $4 mil to spare. We're talking the 10-12 men here, what idiot is going to pay anything but minimum deals for bench warmers?

As for Ellis and Biedrens. You guys got other players to re-sign. Once done, let's see how much you're willing to give AB

And the odds of Memphis giving up a young max deal big like Gasol so they can add another small guard at similar cost to go with the 3-4 they already got are pretty slim.

There's a reason Jason Richardson is in Charlotte even though it set the team back a little. This has been planned out for a year plus.

I believe in your first post that you said that GS could keep all 3 (Azu, Biedrins, & Ellis) so that you are contradicting that statement in this post. That was my point, you don't have the money to keep all of those guys & add a pick if you have to pay your two key guys $10 million apiece & if Azu gets his $4 million. Also, not to argue but to tell you the reality of our situation & that is that Philly is $11 million under the cap. The RFA status of Williams & Iguodala has already been factored in with cap holds. Thus, Philly could offer either of your guys a contract starting at $11 million. Memphis is sitting there with $41 million on the books & salaries of a combined $3.4 million for their 2 draft picks. They thus have almost $14 million in cap space & signing Ellis (a future star) from Mississippi has already been talked about in the press. If & of course this is speculation, Philly & Memphis go after your two young guys, you will have to go into luxury territory. If you follow the GS board you know this is unlikely to happen.[/quote]

Most find it unlikely Azubike gets that kind of deal, but we'll see. With talk of a deal with the Cavs that will bring in Varajao and Pavlovic for Harrington and the need to get Bellinelli more clock, he's optional.

And the point wasn't the Sixers and Grizz were incapable of offering big deals - the point is it's highly unlikely.

Press can talk about it all they want, but bottomline is Memphis just fire saled including a very talented young big man and the owner is trying to sell. Giving Ellis that kind of deal flies in the face of everything they've done thus far.

As for the Sixers, pairing Dalembert and Biedrens up front doesn't make much sense either.

If YOU follow the GS board, you'll see there's little concern regarding this because of how unlikely those two scenarios are.

[tk76]

I agree that the Sixers are unlikely to go after Biedrins or Ellis because neither is the best fit.

However, as Corwin was saying, the Sixers can offer any FA a deal starting at 11M (5yr/67M with yearly raises) and then resign Iguodala and Lou and still be well under the tax. The have a 10M cap hold assigned to those 2 players. If they released Iguodala and Lou (not happening) they would actually have 21M to offer a FA next year.

If they use all of their cap space signing a guy like Biedrins or Okafor to a 5yr/67M contract, and then resigned Iguodlal and Lou to more than 10M combined (using their Bird rights to go over the cap) they would be over the cap, but certainly still well below the $:$ tax threshold that most owner balk at (including GS historically.) Some teams like Boston and NY go over the tax, but its not common.

[SendEm]

If Biendrins were more than just a young hustle player there is no way that GS would be able to keep him and Monta because the Sixers definitely would give him a deal starting at $11 without the entire 10% increases and then if GS matched you'd have Memphis and/or Philly gunning for Monta with a big deal potentially what Hinrich received starting at $11 million. But Biendrins is just a hustle player so in the end he most likely will not have a team extend him a big time offer sheet due to his low value as a player and fear of being financially tied up for 7 days.

[corwin]

As for the Sixers, pairing Dalembert and Biedrens up front doesn't make much sense either.

If YOU follow the GS board, you'll see there's little concern regarding this because of how unlikely those two scenarios are

I happen to think Biedrins is a pretty good starting center. I don't see how his signing doesn't make sense for the Sixers as I think they would complement one another. However, even if that were not the case, signing Biedrins would allow Philly to trade Dalembert. As for Ellis, Memphis is trying to develop an athletic, running team. He's perfect for what they are trying to do. Would they spend the money? Who knows. I realize that they are trying to sell the team but it might be more marketable if it was a little better.

[Samson]

Getting Brandan Wright for the 16 would be awesome... like awesizzy...jam rock... teh hotzz... sticky icky icky.... wooohooo! woot!

And it would be really cool too!