Free Agency talk

[pacershereiam]

2008 FREE AGENTS AND OPTIONS
Atlanta
Josh Childress Restricted FA
Josh Smith Restricted FA
Salim Stoudamire Restricted FA
Mario West Restricted FA
Boston
Tony Allen Restricted FA
Sam Cassell Unrestricted FA
Eddie House Unrestricted FA
Scot Pollard Unrestricted FA
James Posey Player Option
Charlotte
Derek Anderson Unrestricted FA
Jermareo Davidson Team Option
Othella Harrington Team Option
Ryan Hollins Restricted FA
Emeka Okafor Restricted FA
Chicago
Shannon Brown Unrestricted FA
Luol Deng Restricted FA
Chris Duhon Unrestricted FA
Ben Gordon Restricted FA
Demetris Nichols Restricted FA
Cleveland
Devin Brown Unrestricted FA
Daniel Gibson Restricted FA
Dwayne Jones Restricted FA
Delonte West Restricted FA
Dallas
Malik Allen Unrestricted FA
Jose Barea Restricted FA
Devean George Unrestricted FA
Juwan Howard Unrestricted FA
Eddie Jones Player Option
Tyronn Lue Unrestricted FA
Jamaal Magloire Unrestricted FA
Antoine Wright Unrestricted FA
Denver
Anthony Carter Unrestricted FA
Yakhouba Diawara Restricted FA
Allen Iverson Early Term. Option
Bobby Jones Restricted FA
Eduardo Najera Unrestricted FA
JR Smith Restricted FA
Detroit
Juan Dixon Unrestricted FA
Jarvis Hayes Unrestricted FA
Walter Herrmann Restricted FA
Lindsey Hunter Unrestricted FA
Theo Ratliff Unrestricted FA
Golden State
Kelenna Azubuike Player Option
Matt Barnes Unrestricted FA
Andris Biedrins Restricted FA
Austin Croshere Unrestricted FA
Baron Davis Early Term. Option
Monta Ellis Restricted FA
Patrick O'Bryant Unrestricted FA
Mickael Pietrus Unrestricted FA
Houston
Steve Francis Player Option
Carl Landry Restricted FA
Dikembe Mutombo Unrestricted FA
Steve Novak Team Option
Indiana
Stephen Graham Team Option
David Harrison Restricted FA
Jermaine O'Neal Early Term. Option
Andre Owens Restricted FA
Kareem Rush Unrestricted FA
L.A. Clippers
Elton Brand Early Term. Option
Paul Davis Restricted FA
Dan Dickau Unrestricted FA
Shaun Livingston Restricted FA
Corey Maggette Early Term. Option
Smush Parker Player Option
Quinton Ross Unrestricted FA
L.A. Lakers
Trevor Ariza Player Option
Chris Mihm Player Option
Ira Newble Unrestricted FA
Ronny Turiaf Restricted FA
Sasha Vujacic Restricted FA
Memphis
Andre Brown Restricted FA
Kwame Brown Unrestricted FA
Casey Jacobsen Unrestricted FA
Juan Carlos Navarro Restricted FA
Miami
Earl Barron Unrestricted FA
Ricky Davis Unrestricted FA
Shawn Marion Early Term. Option
Alonzo Mourning Unrestricted FA
Chris Quinn Restricted FA
Jason Williams Unrestricted FA
Dorell Wright Restricted FA
Milwaukee
Royal Ivey Unrestricted FA
Michael Ruffin Unrestricted FA
Awvee Storey Team Option
Jake Voskuhl Unrestricted FA
Minnesota
Michael Doleac Unrestricted FA
Ryan Gomes Restricted FA
Chris Richard Restricted FA
Craig Smith Restricted FA
Kirk Snyder Restricted FA
Sebastian Telfair Restricted FA
New Jersey
Darrell Armstrong Unrestricted FA
DeSagana Diop Unrestricted FA
Nenad Krstic Restricted FA
Bostjan Nachbar Unrestricted FA
Stromile Swift Player Option
New Orleans
Ryan Bowen Unrestricted FA
Melvin Ely Player Option
Jannero Pargo Player Option
Bonzi Wells Unrestricted FA
New York
Fred Jones Unrestricted FA
Stephon Marbury Early Term. Option
Randolph Morris Restricted FA
Orlando
Carlos Arroyo Unrestricted FA
James Augustine Restricted FA
Keith Bogans Player Option
Keyon Dooling Unrestricted FA
Maurice Evans Unrestricted FA
Adonal Foyle Player Option
Pat Garrity Unrestricted FA
Philadelphia
Louis Amundson Restricted FA
Calvin Booth Player Option
Herbert Hill Restricted FA
Andre Iguodala Restricted FA
Kevin Ollie Unrestricted FA
Shavlik Randolph Restricted FA
Louis Williams Restricted FA
Phoenix
Gordan Giricek Unrestricted FA
Grant Hill Player Option
Sean Marks Unrestricted FA
Eric Piatkowski Unrestricted FA
Brian Skinner Unrestricted FA
Portland
James Jones Player Option
Raef LaFrentz Early Term. Option
Von Wafer Restricted FA
Sacramento
Ron Artest Early Term. Option
Anthony Johnson Unrestricted FA
Kenny Thomas Early Term. Option
Beno Udrih Unrestricted FA
Lorenzen Wright Unrestricted FA
San Antonio
Brent Barry Unrestricted FA
Michael Finley Unrestricted FA
Robert Horry Unrestricted FA
Kurt Thomas Unrestricted FA
Jacque Vaughn Player Option
Seattle
Francisco Elson Unrestricted FA
Mickael Gelabale Restricted FA
Robert Swift Restricted FA
Toronto
Primoz Brezec Unrestricted FA
Jose Calderon Restricted FA
Carlos Delfino Restricted FA
Rasho Nesterovic Player Option
Utah
Jason Hart Player Option
CJ Miles Restricted FA
Paul Millsap Team Option
Washington
Gilbert Arenas Early Term. Option
Antawn Jamison Unrestricted FA
Roger Mason Unrestricted FA


Looking at that list, someone I would like to add is Diop. We could sign him with our MLE. He is a good defensive player. Duhon is another I would like to add. Your thoughts?

[Tommy Udo 6]

Jermaine O'Neal, Artest, and Iverson have publically declined their ETOs.

Ariza has picked up his player option

So those 4 guys can be removed from the list

[FreeRon]

I'm can't really comment on what I'd like to do without knowing what we do in the draft. I personally would like to see us trade back into the first round so we can take a PG and a C in the first round, which would really eliminate the need for us to spend the extra money on a free agent. If we just draft a PG, though, I wouldn't mind Diop too much.

[PR07]

Don't see us being major players. Perhaps a backup SG and a third string center.

Guys I like: Roger Mason, CJ Miles, Tony Allen, Mickael Gelabale, Louis Williams, Azuibuike, Salim Stoudamire. Also, wouldn't mind seeing James Jones return. I always like that kid both on and off the court, and I think he can play some 2. The defense he played on Paul Pierce in the playoffs one year was excellent. Good shooter.

Third string center, doesn't really matter, but I'd prefer just a physical banger like a Melvin Ely or Adonal Foyle.

[Grang33r]

Alot of those players, as Tommy Udo said, are re-signed and could be taken off the list.

The several players that interest me are -

Carlos Arroyo, because i think in a different offense i think he can shine. He always shines in International competitions and i do think he's a good player in the NBA but just hasn't gotten the right break yet. He's had several big games for Orlando this past season, i think he can average like 12-13ppg and like 6-7 apg if he got the minutes. He's quick and could be one of those late bloomers. He's a great talent but he just hasn't figured out the NBA just yet, it's only time before he does.

Anthony Carter, if we draft a PG like Augustin or Westbrook i'd love to have Carter on this team. Carter is probably one of the best defensive point guards in the NBA. He's old so his demand probably isn't high but in games where our rookies can't handle the opponent, we could give Carter more minutes so play as a shut-down PG.... he wouldn't kill us offensively but would be a huge asset on defense.

Austin Croshere - He was a fan favorite here and i think he got a raw deal in Golden State. I know he's like 33 years old or something like that, but the guy is a fan favorite, would be cheap and gives a honest effort each and every night. He can give us a little bit of scoring, a little bit of hustle rebounding, and i think alot of fans would enjoy him being a Pacer again and him retire as a Pacer.

[joew8302]

I agree with adding Croshere. It would definetly be nice, as he was always a solid player. But based on the fact no one goes to Pacer games and we are over the cap, I just don't see Indiana being a big player.

[Bucky O'Hare]

Croshere for the minimum as a 3rd stringer would be acceptable. Anything other than that? Please no.

Realistically, I'd throw the full MLE at Louis Williams and hope that it's enough to pry him away from the 76ers, although I doubt it would be.

Other than that, maybe Daniel Gibson, who's a lights out shooter and still very young. I would say Sebastian Telfair, but he and Diener would seem redundant in their mediocrity.

Just noticed C.J. Miles. He only played 11 mpg for the Jazz, but in those 11 minutes he was very effective across the board, including good shooting percentages. Throw in the fact that he's just 21, and I think you could make a good case that his potential is just as high as any mid-lottery pick. I probably wouldn't go full MLE, but I'd throw him something out there for around $4M per and see if he could steal him away from Utah.

[Tommy Udo 6]

Croshere did play for the vet minimum in Golden State - with the NBA paying most of his salary.

He almost certainly would play for Indiana for a one year deal for the same amount.

[count55]

Barring a JO trade this summer that would allow a little breathing room, it's highly unlikely that the Pacers will be using any of their MLE.

They currently are committed to just under $69 million dollars in payroll for 11 players. The player we take at #11 will command a contract at around $2.1 million for the first year, putting us at a total of $71 million with only 12 players.

The luxury tax threshold last season was just under $68 million. A growth of about 5% (average) would put the threshold at $70.7 million, so we'll either be dead up against it, or over. The dollar for dollar tax would mean that a Full MLE would actually cost the Pacers about $10.7 million cash money next season.

I have a hard time believing that they'll pay that much tax for a team whose most likely best case scenario at this point is a low-seed in the the playoffs.

I suspect they'll fill the roster with guys at the minimum, and go with 14 again this year.

[Scoot McGroot]

I'm gonna have to agree with c55 here. We're just too cash strapped to spend big money on any body, even if we have the MLE to do so.